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GimbalFan
09-22-2005, 04:39 AM
I see a lot of complaints about G3 in these forums. Some of the comments are downright rude. I've been using G3 for 8 months now, and I'm confident that the muscle-memory skills I've acquired using this sim have saved me THOUSANDS of dollars in repairs.

Granted, there've been some problems. I struggled for several weeks trying to get G3 running on a laptop that ultimately was not equiped to run it. And I understand that many folks do not have the resources to upgrade or build a new box just to run high-end simware. But I got LOTS of help from the folks at Great Planes with my problems.

And I so I built a new box just to run it, knowing that I'd save hundreds if not thousands of $$$ in crashed birds that DIDN'T crash because of the time spent (very enjoyable time, I might add) flying G3 from the comfort of my recliner.

When you consider the cost of planting even a moderately-priced bird, the choice to buy the G3 sim is a no-brainer, even with the occasional tech problems. And if you'll be flying nitro helis or the larger planks, at upwards of $1000 or more per bird, even the cost of upgrading or building a new 'puter to utilize this sim is easily justifiable.

My first flight at the RC field was met with the applause usually reserved for a seasoned pilot. NO ONE at the park could believe I'd never flown an RC bird before, let alone a 3D chopper. With what I've learned on the sim I'm confident that my birds are highly unlikely to crash, short of onboard equipment failure. And if I do dumbthumb one in, I'll of course be sad and disappointed, but FAR LESS so, knowing that I flew A LOT longer than most before sucking the dirt.

Lighten up, guys. Upgrade your 'puters. Get a good video card. Build a new machine if you have to. And whenever you feel like b--tching about the struggles you go through to get it working right, think about how much HARD-EARNED DOUGH you're likely to SAVE in the long run.

GimbalFan

Lodai
09-22-2005, 11:23 AM
GimbalFan, I couldn't agree more. I have been flying RCs for just under a year now---and have already totalled two planes, even after being taught by an instructor. I've had G3 for about 2 months now, and my ability to fly the real things has improved dramatically. G3 has taught me to be gentler on the controls, but the biggest improvement is making corrections in the PROPER direction. I was full-time, full-scale pilot for over 40 years, but it seems to me that learning to fly RC was a heck of a lot harder than flying the big ones.

Thanks RealFlight!

Progneto
09-23-2005, 01:07 AM
GimbalFan, I couldn't agree more. I have been flying RCs for just under a year now---and have already totalled two planes, even after being taught by an instructor. I've had G3 for about 2 months now, and my ability to fly the real things has improved dramatically. G3 has taught me to be gentler on the controls, but the biggest improvement is making corrections in the PROPER direction. I was full-time, full-scale pilot for over 40 years, but it seems to me that learning to fly RC was a heck of a lot harder than flying the big ones.

Thanks RealFlight!

I've probably trained 100 people to fly RC in the last 30+ years and full scale pilots are by far, the hardest to teach! :eek:

Progneto
My Web Site (http://www.utahwest.com/rc)

Don Frame
09-23-2005, 03:59 AM
Agree, Agree, Agree.
See my thread "*****Whoopie*****" under the "General Discussion" Area
Also see my reply to Japhet under the "G3 Ring Racing: Course 4" thread.
I also built a new computer to eliminate any hardware/computer limitations. Even here in Australia my new computer cost less then half of what I paid for my model!
But now I have flown it, thanks to G3.
You obviously must be an "Ozzie" living Las Vegas", if not you are welcome as an "HONORARY Ozzie" any time you want!

TDistortion
09-23-2005, 11:41 PM
There is also the problem of the "gmax" type editor that was said to be out in a "few months" on March 21st. That "few" now equal six with no information being provided about why it is delayed (or indeed if it will ever become available). That's something to complain about.

Progneto
09-27-2005, 01:00 AM
There is also the problem of the "gmax" type editor that was said to be out in a "few months" on March 21st. That "few" now equal six with no information being provided about why it is delayed (or indeed if it will ever become available). That's something to complain about.

According to what I've been told by the "powers that be", six months is like one second in real life,,,so I think three years might be like your 15 minute break at work.

In other words, I wouldn't get in a big hurry. Just forget about the Gmax filter and when it gets here you'll be amazed that you have it! :p

I've had G3 for almost a year now and it's finally just getting to be a decent sim.

Progneto

bgi
09-29-2005, 01:11 PM
When you consider the cost of planting even a moderately-priced bird, the choice to buy the G3 sim is a no-brainer, even with the occasional tech problems. And if you'll be flying nitro helis or the larger planks, at upwards of $1000 or more per bird, even the cost of upgrading or building a new 'puter to utilize this sim is easily justifiable.
GimbalFan

My experience with Gee2 was just like yours. I'm certain I saved a lot of money in crashes that didn't happen. For that, I'm grateful. Truly I am. I have many happy memories of time spent on Gee2 that I might have spent fixing or replacing planes. However...

My favorite plane right now is my Morris Knife. I'm trying to learn the usual 3D moves. I upgraded to Gee3 because of the "improved" 3D modelling. To say that Gee3, for me, is a step backwards is a major understatement. Of the 9-10 planes I tried last night during my first session with it, 3 were flyable. I ran out of time before I found a plane with which I could practice 3D. Maybe the extra will work, but I was so flabbergasted by the other problems I didn't try it. I don't know if it's a problem mainly with the add-ons import conversion or what. I'll spend some time researching to "fix" these planes. If that doesn't work, I'm getting Gee2 back from my friend so I can train some more.

My computer is in need of no upgrades.

I don't even know how long Gee3 it has been out. But it's not ready for prime time. Try the F-86 or Edge 540 on patch .420 and let me know how they fly. If they work well for you without any "tweaks," I'd love to know about it.

Breakstuff5050
09-29-2005, 04:43 PM
There is also the problem of the "gmax" type editor that was said to be out in a "few months" on March 21st. That "few" now equal six with no information being provided about why it is delayed (or indeed if it will ever become available). That's something to complain about.


Dude, just be patient, be glad they are even thinking about giving us one, cause now all the value on the add ons will be worthless, so im happy :D

Progneto
09-30-2005, 12:43 PM
My favorite plane right now is my Morris Knife. I'm trying to learn the usual 3D moves. I upgraded to Gee3 because of the "improved" 3D modelling. To say that Gee3, for me, is a step backwards is a major understatement. Of the 9-10 planes I tried last night during my first session with it, 3 were flyable. I ran out of time before I found a plane with which I could practice 3D.

My sentiments exactly. Maybe if I wouldn't have started off on G2, I would think that G3 is the best thing since shirt pockets. Unfortunately, I've been pretty dissatisfied although things are getting a little better now that approximately ten months have passed since I bought the software. It's too bad that some people slam those of us who are not as satisfied with G3 as they are.

Progneto

Skull-n-Bones
10-10-2005, 02:35 PM
I just bought G3 and installed it on a new HP Pentium 4 I got for graphics. It was a basic model but runs at over 3 Ghz and has 512 Meg of memory. The new PC was about $450 and $99 shipping. I am lucky enought to have a 21" LCD monitor.

The program installed and runs great! I am still trying to get the planes shaodows to work but other than that it runs on 100% detail with NO lag.

I haven't even built the plane yet but thanks to G3, I am pretty sure I have a much less chance of making an ass of myself in front of the instructor on the field.

G3 is AMAZING!!! And incredibly addictive...The luxury of trying out new maneuvers with no risk of damage? Priceless!!!

GimbalFan
10-10-2005, 02:55 PM
G3 is AMAZING!!! And incredibly addictive <-- And therein lies the rub. I'm a guy who doesn't miss many meals, but for the first few months I had to pry myself away from the controller to get food, and I usually wasn't able to even do that until my stomach growling was louder than the engine sounds. Lost 18lbs in 3 months.

Addictive? Yes indeed. And it may be the only type of addiction there is that SAVES you money. You may want to get yourself a good battery backup power supply in case you forget to pay the electric bill.

Skull-n-Bones
10-10-2005, 03:15 PM
Yes..it is VERY hard to peel myself away from the PC now. Eating has always been an inconvenience anyway...