G4 on Mac Bootcamp?

[gigarange58]

I have G3.5 running beautifully on my MacBook when booting to Windows XP in Bootcamp. Has anyone gotten G4 to run with bootcamp?

Thanks!

[Adam Taylor]

I'm similarly curious if anyone has successfully gotten RealFlight to work under Linux using wine / Cedega / something similar.

[CanCanCase]

Send me a free copy and I'll toss it up on my dual-quad Mac Pro and MBP and see how it does...

All this expensive hardware as a retirement "gift" and now that I've re-joined the real world, I can't run out and order a copy of G4 without taking a serious beating from the wife... hmm... is it worth the beating? ;-)

-Case

[gigarange58]

Anyone yet...?

[j2773]

I just tried to get G4 working in a Windows XP virtual machine on a brand new MacBook Pro using VMWare Fusion, since there is now limited support for 3D acceleration in VMWare Fusion. Unfortunately, when I tried launching the application, I get an error stating "Error creating effect ShadowReceiveDirectionalWater." I have to believe that VMWare Fusion still has problems with the 3D rendering in the virtual environment.

I'll create a Windows XP Bootcamp partition later today and see if I can get G4 working in this partition. You should hopefully hear back from me a little later on.

[gigarange58]

Thanks! Looking forward to hearing how it goes in Bootcamp.

I tried G3.5 in Parallels but couldn't get it to work. HOWEVER, it performs beautifully in Bootcamp. I'm hoping the same is true for G4.

[dMac00]

So the answer is yes. I have G4 Up and runnign on both a MacBook Pro and a brand new iMac(Aluminumn) both under BootCamp. The MacBook Pro is running Winders XP and the iMac Vista. In Vista I got properties on the G4 Simulator(not Launcher) and clicked the box for XP compatibility. It seemed to run a little slow before I checked compatibility. Once in a while it would instantionously stop then continue. All seems to run just fine now.

dMac00
:D

[BladeCP02]

So the answer is yes. I have G4 Up and runnign on both a MacBook Pro and a brand new iMac(Aluminumn) both under BootCamp. The MacBook Pro is running Winders XP and the iMac Vista. In Vista I got properties on the G4 Simulator(not Launcher) and clicked the box for XP compatibility. It seemed to run a little slow before I checked compatibility. Once in a while it would instantionously stop then continue. All seems to run just fine now.

dMac00
:D

What kind of FPS do you get on all your systems?

[j2773]

OK, I just got everything running and I am glad to report G4 works great under Windows XP in Bootcamp on my MacBook Pro. On the 3D fields, I'm getting anywhere from 47-60 FPS, but then again, this is a brand new (2 day old) system with 4GB of RAM and 256MB of video ram. I just wish it worked in a virtual machine using VMWare Fusion so that I didn't have to carve up another partition on the hard drive.

[nemo_uk]

I just wish it worked in a virtual machine using VMWare Fusion so that I didn't have to carve up another partition on the hard drive.

Fusion can use the bootcamp installation as a virtual machine, that way you only need one install of XP. Just a shame about the 3d stuff.

[Adam Taylor]

Here's a success story I got in an email from Kevin Fotorny.


your software ROCKS on my Mac PowerBook Pro (Intel Dual Core powered) running Boot Camp and Leopard (the newest Mac OS) and a NVidia graphics card

no install issues, works perfectly...it screams

let the world know, Intel Dual Core Mac owners can fly Real Flight 4 with Boot Camp (comes with Leopard) and a copy of XP, sp2 installed


Awesome!

[oldskool]

I have been running RF 3.5 under Apple's Boot Camp with no problems for many months. However, the upgrade to 10.5 (Apple's latest OS upgrade) also includes updated windows drivers. After installing the drivers, the performance is unusably slow, on the order of 1 frame every 3-4 seconds - worst with photofields. The only "Fix" is to reinstall windows with the older drivers. Is this a known issue? Is anyone working on a solution? I'm sorry that I am unable to provide you with the updated ATI driver version number. The system is an Intel Core Duo 2.0 GHz, 2GB RAM, 256MB ATI Mobility X1600, Windows XP SP2.

[rodger]

I upgraded my MacBook Pro to Leopard running Bootcamp Windows XP. G4 would run unusably slow. I spoke to Alex at Knife Edge (in tech support) to trouble shoot the issue.We determined it was a driver issue for the Radeon X1600. The new drivers that are supported from Apple for the graphics card did not work! I found my old Bootcamp Beta vertion Driver disc. (I could not find them posted anywhere on the web) I uninstalled the new drivers (display drivers only) that came with Leopard. Rebooted XP, Installed the older Radeon x1600 drivers dated 3/13/2007 Driver version 8.353.0.0 This corrected the issue. G4 NOW RUNS on MacBook Pro with ATI Radeon X1600. I un able to post or email the drivers, I hope this helps other. I will inform Knife Edge as well.

[clm]

I upgraded my MacBook Pro to Leopard running Bootcamp Windows XP. G4 would run unusably slow. I spoke to Alex at Knife Edge (in tech support) to trouble shoot the issue.We determined it was a driver issue for the Radeon X1600. The new drivers that are supported from Apple for the graphics card did not work! I found my old Bootcamp Beta vertion Driver disc. (I could not find them posted anywhere on the web) I uninstalled the new drivers (display drivers only) that came with Leopard. Rebooted XP, Installed the older Radeon x1600 drivers dated 3/13/2007 Driver version 8.353.0.0 This corrected the issue. G4 NOW RUNS on MacBook Pro with ATI Radeon X1600. I un able to post or email the drivers, I hope this helps other. I will inform Knife Edge as well.

I'm running G4 on a McBook Pro with OSX 1.5 Leopard, 256mb NVIDEO 8600 graphics card, 2 gig ram, 2.6 Duo processor, using Windows XP Pro. G4 runs very fast with all graphcs turned to very high. The only problem I have is when using the downloaded and installed G3.5 custome planes. The G3.5 custome planes all have electric mtors now and jump around on the runway when not in the air. Once in the air they seam to behave properly. Installing custome G4 planes work without the problem.

Curtis :confused:

[macuser]

People are having success with G4 on their MacBook Pros and with their high end machines and Nvidia graphics cards/chips, etc., but what about slower iMacs?

I have an iMac with 1.83GHz Duo, 2GB RAM, 17" screen and an Intel GMA 950 graphics chip. I wonder how this would work if I installed Leopard which includes BootCamp and a version of Windows?? What about using an old copy of windows 98 that I have lying around? I sure don't like the idea of buying a copy of Vista just to run RealFlight. XP seems to be getting phased out by MS, and the idea of pirating a copy off the Internet is not appealing to me either. Having to run a virus scanner, etc. because of a windows OS is yet another pain in the 'butt' . What's a guy to do?

[clm]

I'm running G4 on a McBook Pro with OSX 1.5 Leopard, 256mb NVIDEO 8600 graphics card, 2 gig ram, 2.6 Duo processor, using Windows XP Pro. G4 runs very fast with all graphcs turned to very high. The only problem I have is when using the downloaded and installed G3.5 custome planes. The G3.5 custome planes all have electric mtors now and jump around on the runway when not in the air. Once in the air they seam to behave properly. Installing custome G4 planes work without the problem.

Curtis :confused:

UPDATE:
I deleted and reinstalled the Custom planes which no longer jump around on the runway.
I'm getting 300 - 450 FPS running G4 in Bootcamp mode with most graphic setting on hightest. Looks great. Physics are a little better then G3.5. Still room for improvement.
I also can run it on OXS Leopard using Parallels. First I have to run in Bootcamp and turn all graphc settings to low or off. Reboot into OSX then run in Parallels but only get 25 - 27 FPS. Looks bad, is slow and jerky.

FYI - I also have AeroFly Pro Deluxe which uses Open GL vise Direct X. Runinng it in Parallels I get 70 - 75 FPS with most graphics setting turned up using 1900-1200 resolution. Looks very good and runs OK. In Bootcamp it looks and runs fabulase. I could not get AFPD to run on OSX using VMWARE.

clm

[Fundy]

This is great! I hope to hear from more Mac users on this topic. I have to run G4 on a friend's PC since I am a Mac user. I have been looking at buying a PC to run G4 on but you can imagine how painful this is for a Mac user. If it works OK on a newer Intel mac with Bootcamp that's the direction I will go. Unfortunately, my dual 2Ghz G5 is not the newer intel dualcore variety.

Thanks for the reports!

[jeffpn]

G5?!? Did someone say G5?!? :D

[guest_jo]

Yes I heard it too...

[Norton]

G5 Macbook or Power Mac G5.

[jeffpn]

G5 Macbook or Power Mac G5.
oh, man, did you have to let the wind out of my sails? :p

[Norton]

oh, man, did you have to let the wind out of my sails? :p

Sorry, but when I saw G5 I tripped out.

[Fundy]

Aaah, sorry. Yes, I was referring to a Power Mac G5. I will be more careful to specify next time. All these acronyms can be a bit confusing. Now I realize there are sensitive antennae out there scanning for anything relating to G4 updates. But imagine G4 running on a Power Mac G5 quad processor....

[mcgski]

Anyone tried G4 on Vista under Bootcamp? Just browsing to see if it's worth investing in G4. Had an old copy of G2 and have seen G3.5 in the LHS. Would love to run this on my Mac.

Thanks,

Mark

[macuser]

Apparently there is another program out there besides BootCamp, VMWare, and Parallels.
It's called Crossover Mac and it's due for release this summer (08). It's in the Beta 2 stage (free for trial) and just might work or allow us to play flight sims on our Apple computers. Read about it at www.tuaw.com/tag/crossover/

Please let me know if you've tried this. It might even allow us to play Windows games withOUT buying a registered version of Windows. How sweet would that be?!

[macuser]

Pardon me, it's called Crossover Gaming, and it's being developed by Crossover Mac. Check out the link as previously posted.

[mcgski]

Anyone tried G4 on Vista under Bootcamp? Just browsing to see if it's worth investing in G4. Had an old copy of G2 and have seen G3.5 in the LHS. Would love to run this on my Mac.

Thanks,

Mark

Bump.

I'd hate to be the guinea pig. Talked to my LHS and they said if it didn't work I couldn't send it back. It was the manufacturer telling them this. I can understand it if it were pure software but isn't the software basically useless unless you have the controller (i.e. the hardware)?

[jeffpn]

isn't the software basically useless unless you have the controller (i.e. the hardware)?
Doesn't really matter what we think, it's the store owner's/maufacturer's policy, whether everyone here agrees with you or not. :confused:

[josh0987]

but isn't the software basically useless unless you have the controller (i.e. the hardware)? The interlink is the anti - piracy device!

You cannot run G4 without it, yeah sure you can run the launcher... But you won't be able to fly.

[mcgski]

Yeah, that's what I thought.

If the mfg would refund my $$ if it didn't work, I'd try it out on this configuration. :)

[RaptorFlo]

First of all, hi everyone here, just got here through a hint from somebody in the German RC Heli forum.

Great to see that G4 should work well in the latest Imacs, does anyone have fps numbers for a 2.8 GHz, 4 gig, Intel Imac with G4 running on XP / Bootcamp ?

I just love this new Futaba controller, and am very tempted to buy G4, but only if it really has consistent high performance on my Imac..

Thanks,

Flo

[Kace]

I did a leap of faith. I bought the G4 and now I am waiting for the new products from MacWorld expo. As soon as the new pricing is in effect I will get a new Mac to run G4.

[mcgski]

I did a leap of faith. I bought the G4 and now I am waiting for the new products from MacWorld expo. As soon as the new pricing is in effect I will get a new Mac to run G4.

Kace,

You da man! From the rumor mill though I'm not sure much more will be announced other than a UMPC. The new Mac Pros look to be pretty hot though.

Will you be trying this with Vista on Bootcamp or will you stick with Windows XP?

Mark

[Fundy]

I, too, have bought G4 even though I don't have a PC. I have 2 macs but neither is an intel duo. At the moment I am running G4 down at our local computer access centre but I am looking at maybe a higher level MacBook or lower level MacBookPro. Hearing about other people's success using G4 on their Macs will help me a lot in knowing which way to go.

There is only one computer at the access centre capable of running G4 but I don't know how G4 would run on a higher spec computer. How can I tell? Likewise, if I was running G4 on a MacBook that was only medium specs how would I know what G4 would do on a higher spec machine. What would be missing?

[mcgski]

I thought I'd drop a note here to those who asked the same question that I had a few weeks ago. I asked:

Anyone tried G4 on Vista under Bootcamp? Just browsing to see if it's worth investing in G4. Had an old copy of G2 and have seen G3.5 in the LHS. Would love to run this on my Mac.


Not seeing a response, I checked in the G3 forum and found a thread that referenced a link to a demo version of G3 at:

http://www.realflight.com/free-g3-demo.html

I tried it out on my MBP with and ATI Radeon X1600 with 256MB or VRAM. The MBP has 3MB of memory and I have it hooked to a second monitor. Recently upgraded to OS X 10.5.1 and have Bootcamp running with Vista Ultimate.

Ran the demo on the Bootcamp partition and all seemed to work well. I was even able to drag the window to the larger monitor and run it in full screen mode.

My only question is how similar is the software between G3 and G4? I'm assuming they're close enough to take the risk of buying G4. Any thoughts by the existing user base or the folks at Knife Edge?

Thanks,

Mark

[macuser]

Hi Mark

I think that the biggest difference between the old and new flight sim is the amount of shading and high end visual effects like clouds, water and the shading of blacks and greys. I think that the new one would work fine on your computer, you just might have to turn down some of the effects to get it to run at the fps you desire. But then I haven't tried it so I could be wrong. I'm just going by all the stuff I've read on other RC simulator sites and gaming sites for iMac users.

[GonDeep11]

Works awesome, let me know if u need any help!

[macuser]

Works awesome, let me know if u need any help!


What computer are you using? MBP? What configuration?

Do you have the graphics turned up on high? Anything turned down?

I just loaded Leopard yesterday but have to scrape together some money to get a Windows OS. Man, $200 just to be able to run G$....oh well, cheaper than buying a second computer to play it.

[macuser]

Since my last post I decided to buy a Mac Pro with a 8800 GT graphics card. That thing should far exceed the graphics requirements for flight simulators into the distant future. I'll post the results in a month or so when everything has arrived and is set up.

[648GIII]

We just successfully installed G4 into Boot Camp on a 24" 2.8 GHz Core2 Extreme iMac with 4 GB of Ram running Leopard. I used my Virtual PC XP install CD. The CD didn't come with Service Pack 2, which is required to install XP on Boot Camp, but following directions online, we stitched SP2 together with the original install data, burned a bootable CD and it worked perfectly with my Virtual PC install codes.

I did make the mistake to have the home folder have a "&" in it's name and got the error
'KEError 21078 Corrupt filename'. After reading the forum and learning the "&" is a big no no , I just just deleted Boot Camp, created a new Boot Camp with no "&" anywhere and G4 works great. The images are crisp and the flying smooth.

[jeffpn]

648GIII, I am glad you got everything working. Welcome to the forums. I doubt that there's anything I can help you with, as you seem to be able to find the help you need, but let me know anyway!! :D

[nnomaeeht]

i have installed g4 on the lowest version of a macbook with OSx 10.5 and boot camp. It says it has the error for graphics card so i was super, I am now installing it on a black macbook because i heard someone say it worked on theirs but if it doesn't work, am i screwed, i really don't want to have to buy another computer and you can't replace the card on macs, anything else i can do?

[edmaruyama]

Hey folks! Just wondering if there's anyone around also using a Macbook Pro and Parallels?

I've installed G4 under MacOS X / Leopard... it runs *beautifully* under boot camp... and kinda flaky under Parallels... but I'd say it's almost there! wooohoo!

if i turn off the shadows.. it kinda "freezes" every now and then... but runs most of the time... :)

So, just to drop a few lines to say "There's hope for us, Mac users... " :)

Regards,
Ed

[David Robert Wright]

I use a Mac at home myself. Looking at Parallels' website, it appears that they go through and hack around to make games compatible on a case-by-case basis. Personally, I prefer VMware Fusion's approach, which is to make DirectX work, which should cause a whole slew of games to work. Right now, Fusion has DirectX 9.0 compatibility, which *should* mean that RealFlight works. I have never tried it, though, so you definitely should try the free trial before paying good money for it.

[macuser]

I have a Mac Pro with a single 2.8GHz quad core, 2 GB ram and a Nvidia 8800GT graphics card & 24" Dell WFP 2406-HC (I think that's the monitor number/it's new anyway). I'm running Vista Home Basic (32-bit) under Bootcamp and G4 works amazing! I've turned up all the settings and still get high fps. To get higher fps you can use the scenes that are photo backgrounds. I was happy with the graphics and play even before I turned everything way up. Of course most of you readers won't be getting or having Mac Pros but it's nice to know that G4 works great with Bootcamp and in Vista.

I can't see why it wouldn't work well with HD 2600 pro or HD 2600 XT graphics cards. I'm not sure how well they work with lower graphics cards than the aforementioned. No reason not to use Vista. I'm still awaiting my 64-bit version of Vista - we'll see if that makes a difference.

[kpmerrill]

Yes, I have Macbook Pro. It runs great under bootcamp Windows XP SP2. I have VMWare fusion installed. I have tried G4 on virtual Windows XP SP2. It did not work as VMWare stated 3d shading is not quite there yet. I belong to a carpool with co-workers. When it is not my turn to drive I practice my RC skills one hour to work and one hour from work. I can't believe how fast my real skills at the field are improving.

[TomXP411]

Pretty cool, isn't it?

The first time an airline pilot has the controls of a large jet, it's actually a paying flight; he gets his training and certification in the simulator.

I had the same experience: I flew nothing but the sim, and the first time I took a real model plane up, I was able to put it through its paces and land it completely solo. Pretty much the same happened with my first glow powered plane; a friend took off, and I landed it.

The flip side: a guy out at the local flying field is always talking smack. "I dont' believe in computers. I never flew a computer in my life. I crashed dozens of times before I learned...." Just one crash can cost as much as copy of RealFlight, as is evidenced by the guy who took his nitro plane up for the first time (he had some electric planes, but they're all light foamies.) It went up, stalled, and nosedived. It wrecked the fuselage and destroyed the engine.

Some time on the sim probably would have prevented that.

[macuser]

I couldn't agree more with you guys. Great idea about using the flightsim while catching a ride.

[jedivie]

I upgraded my MacBook Pro to Leopard running Bootcamp Windows XP. G4 would run unusably slow. I spoke to Alex at Knife Edge (in tech support) to trouble shoot the issue.We determined it was a driver issue for the Radeon X1600. The new drivers that are supported from Apple for the graphics card did not work! I found my old Bootcamp Beta vertion Driver disc. (I could not find them posted anywhere on the web) I uninstalled the new drivers (display drivers only) that came with Leopard. Rebooted XP, Installed the older Radeon x1600 drivers dated 3/13/2007 Driver version 8.353.0.0 This corrected the issue. G4 NOW RUNS on MacBook Pro with ATI Radeon X1600. I un able to post or email the drivers, I hope this helps other. I will inform Knife Edge as well.


Anyone have a quick link to the driver mentioned above? I can't seem to find it anywhere. I need the driver 8.353.0.0

Thanks!

[claus57]

Anyone have a quick link to the driver mentioned above? I can't seem to find it anywhere. I need the driver 8.353.0.0

Thanks!
Hi guys, me and my friend have the same problem. We have two macbook pro 2gb ram; ati 256MB, intel core duo 2.16Ghz, OSX Leopard, bootcamp 2.1 and windows sp2.
No problem with G3 but 1 frame every 2, 3 sec with G4.
I found a torrent with bootcamp 1.4 but problem continues.
Anyone has these damned drivers? :confused:

[claus57]

Hello guys, at this moment I don't know if these drivers really solve the problem, but you can find here:
http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/mac/bootcampprevious.html :cool:

For two days I can't try them... tell me if they work! :(

[claus57]

:) Hello... With this drivers no problem to fly!!! :D

[jjuneau]

I have G3.5 running beautifully on my MacBook when booting to Windows XP in Bootcamp. Has anyone gotten G4 to run with bootcamp?

Thanks!


G4 with all 5 expansions and the 2 addon packs work flawlessly on my Mac Pro 8 core setup when running Bootcamp 2.0+ on Win XP SP3

[Rowco]

Boot Camp is a nice workaround for some people, I guess, but when is RealFlight going to have a native Mac version? I'm not going to go buy a copy of Windows just for this.

[opjose]

but when is RealFlight going to have a native Mac version?

Sorry to say, never.

[seasar]

OK, I can tell by the tone of this forum that this must be possible....
Has anyone else gotten beyond "your video card is not able to render 3D images..."

I get this error attempting to run the demo version of G4, not willing to buy the full version until I know it will work on my 20" imac with Leopard.

Thanks for your help.

[JeremyJSutton]

I am a newbie to flight sims and trying to get my head around flight sims and being a Mac owner.

I own an alum. 20" iMac with 2.4 GHz Intel Core Duo processor and ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro graphics card.

I am very seriously considering buying RealFlight and I have three questions:

1) Has their been a lot of success with other iMac owners with BootCamp running RealiFlight?
2) I have heard that the iMac graphics cards are not to par with the Mac Book Pros and therefore, there are some graphic quality decreases, etc. when using the iMac. Is this true?
3) Would you recommend installing Windows XP or Vista with Boot Camp? I would like to install the least cumbersome software on my Mac as possible.

Jeremy

[BlenderPilot]

I have a MacBook, 2.2Mhz with 2GB Ram and 144 Video RAM, and G4 runs excellent under BootCamp, except that I have no shadows, anbody have a clue why? Thanks In Advance!!!


This is my video card:

Intel GMA X3100:
Chipset Model: GMA X3100
Type: Display
Bus: Built-In
VRAM (Total): 144 MB
Vendor: Intel (0x8086)
Device ID: 0x2a02
Revision ID: 0x0003

[Haole]

Blender, your Mac has integrated graphics which just barely cut the mustard. I have read but have no personal experience, that updating G4 to the latest version may help the performance when using Intel integrated video chips.

You can update your install of G4 by first registering it online, then using the G4 launcher to update to the current version. Only takes a minute and it might help you out.

Also be sure to check in your settings that you have shadows enabled. Maybe they're just turned off. The graphic settings are under the main menu of G4 under setting>graphics. There are all kinds of goodies that you can mess with in that options pane to help you get better performance on lower specced systems.

Carl

[sned45]

Has anyone tried the July 21 2008 X1600 driver from ATI's driver download site?

[BlenderPilot]

Blender, your Mac has integrated graphics which just barely cut the mustard. I have read but have no personal experience, that updating G4 to the latest version may help the performance when using Intel integrated video chips.

You can update your install of G4 by first registering it online, then using the G4 launcher to update to the current version. Only takes a minute and it might help you out.

Also be sure to check in your settings that you have shadows enabled. Maybe they're just turned off. The graphic settings are under the main menu of G4 under setting>graphics. There are all kinds of goodies that you can mess with in that options pane to help you get better performance on lower specced systems.

Carl

Thank you very much Haole, I did as you suggested, register, updated, but unfortunately didn't work, but what did work was upgrading Boot Camp to 2.1, and did the trick, I have shadows now!!!

I get excellent frame rate, and everything works like a charm!

I thank you very much for your help.

[Haole]

Well that's great news and good job figuring things out on your own! Happy virtual flying :)

[bigbird07]

My MacPro 3 ghz quad core x1900 with 4 gigs of ram runs G3.5 pretty well :rolleyes:. I do have a couple of problems one of which may have been solved by reading here.

G3.5 works fine a few times then all of a sudden it asks me for all the serials again. (sounds like I need to turn off user account control...)

Now I just need to find someone who can tell me why Vista keeps going into fallback after a short period of time.

example:

Vista and G3.5 (plus a few other games (halo 2, halflife 2) installed) during boot, Vista goes to the screen where you choose the system you want
Vista Ultimate or
Vista business (recovered) and maybe others.
there is also a countdown (30 secs) then it boots into vista. Enter your password and go.

Ok? all fine.

Well after a period of time booting back and forth between OS X (leopard 10.5.4) and Vista Ultimate (SP1), all of a sudden I get a black screen with a blinking cursor in the upper right hand corner and then the screen fills with a bunch of text and then it boots... All seems normal after booting except that's about the time G3.5 starts asking for serials again. :confused:

Being a long time Mac user this is all greek to me.

Thanks for any help
bigbird

[eroeder]

All,
I was hoping to get some assistance. I have an iMac, 2.8mHz, 24in screen, 4 gig ram, the base ATI video card (not the upgraded card). I have bootcamp loaded, XP SP2 upgraded now to SP3, wireless keyboard and wireless mouse running, the new ATI video drivers, and G4 loaded. All appears to be working fine, but when I try to launch G4 from the launcher, it starts to load and then disappears. It doesn't give an error or anything, just disappears.
Any ideas?

thanks!

[eroeder]

Disregard!
Did a complete wipe, repartition, reload of XP SP2 with no updates to see if the it works, and it does. I guess I will add in updates one at time to see which one was hosing my prior install. Great looking app!

[adamas]

I have a macbook Pro (15 months old) and I used Bootcamp to install Windows XP Home SP2. Then I installed RF G4 and everything went smooth. When I atart Real Flight everything looks great and the plane is sitting on the runway. The PROBLEM is it barely moves. It is not usable because it takes about 4 seconds for each little movement. My comp has a Radeon 1600x card. All the hardware is new enough for this program to run great. Anyone have this problem?? Thanks!

[dgrdan]

Greetings,

Brand new to the forum. I own a Blade CX2 and have been flying it for about 2 mos and I feel it is time to move on to something bigger and better. I own a 20inch Imac 2.66 with 2gb ram and the ATI 2600 video card. I wanted to load G4 onto my Mac to practice awhile before I upgrade but was not sure if I could. I read a few posts on here from people who had success, so I thought I would try. Here is what I did:

1) Loaded boot camp assistant ver. 2.0 onto Mac OSX ver 10.5.4

2) Loaded Vista Home Premium w/SP1 (OEM version)

3) Loaded windows drivers from OSX disk (located in the Boot Camp folder)

4) Loaded Real Flight G4 and registered it.

5) Ran G4 with no problems at all with all graphics cranked to highest. Very smooth graphics with no jerkiness like some reported.

Just wanted to share a success story.

Dan

[eagleswings]

Hi Guys,

I am running the following:

Mac Pro with One 2.8GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
OS 10.5.4
6GB 800 MHz DDR2 RAM
ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT 256MB (Two dual-link DVI)
320GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s

Do I have enough juice to run RealFlight 3.5 or 4? If either will work, will one be better over the other as far as performance with the Intel is concerned?

Thank you for your help!
Mike

[dgrdan]

Mike,

The system you describe is certainly more powerful than mine and mine runs G4 just fine. I would guess your system would be more than adequate to run it.

Dan

[Dillweed]

I apologize in advance as this is probably my first post, but I felt compelled to chime it.

I have a Macbook Pro 2.4ghz, 2gigs of ram and a 8600GT (I think) I bought it in June 2007, and have bootcamp running XP SP3. G4 runs great!! No slowdowns, my FPS are well about 30, so I experience no lag. I'm pretty sure that all the settings are at default. I haven't tried anything with water, so I don't know about that.

I've noticed that the drivers that come with bootcamp are extremely old. After installing all the bootcamp drivers, the first website I go to is Nvidia's to download the latest drivers for my video card. I also had to use a tweaked INF file from this website http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/ or I've also use the Omega drivers for my Macbook. I'm not sure about the AMD(ATI) cards, but I'd imagine there is something out there for the mobile folks.

Anyways, for the people having problems or slow running stuff, be sure to have the most up to date drivers. It really helps solve a lot of problems.

Reid

[Haole]

Your video card is the weak link (as with just about every Mac out there) but the CPU will eat either version of the program alive. Get G4.

Carl

[T2H]

Hello,
I am new here, I just want to report that I have bought RFG4 3 days agos and hopefully it is working fine on my iMac.

My iMac is a core2duo 3,06GHz 4GB RAM with nVidia 8800GS/512MB VRAM (actually it is a 8800GT downclocked to match the GS specs). I installed windows XP SP3 via bootcamp, then the drivers supplied by apple on disc 1. I finished with apple auto-update and RFG4 install, et voila.
Bootcamp is version 2.1 (latest) and directX supplied on the XPSP3 install disc is already ver. 9.0c so I didn't need to reinstall DX from the G4 discs. Note that if you want upgrade XP to SP3 or install XPSP3 you need bootcamp ver. 2.1.

RFG4 runs very well in 1920x1200 highest but smooth shadows. I typically have around 60-80fps with the ground 3D scenes. The water scenes make a framerate drop and I get typically 35 (worst)-45fps generally speaking. When the shadows are set to high instead of highest, I get a fps boost by 20 or more.

It runs smooth on my iMac. I am discovering the software but I already enjoy it.

Thomas

[eagleswings]

Mike,

The system you describe is certainly more powerful than mine and mine runs G4 just fine. I would guess your system would be more than adequate to run it.

Dan

Hi Dan,

Thanks so much for your reply. That is pretty encouraging...I think I'll be in the market for G4 then.

I used to have G3.5 but sold it when it wouldn't run on Fusion.

Thanks again!
Mike

[captain_rkirk]

I upgraded my MacBook Pro to Leopard running Bootcamp Windows XP. G4 would run unusably slow. I spoke to Alex at Knife Edge (in tech support) to trouble shoot the issue.We determined it was a driver issue for the Radeon X1600. The new drivers that are supported from Apple for the graphics card did not work! I found my old Bootcamp Beta vertion Driver disc. (I could not find them posted anywhere on the web) I uninstalled the new drivers (display drivers only) that came with Leopard. Rebooted XP, Installed the older Radeon x1600 drivers dated 3/13/2007 Driver version 8.353.0.0 This corrected the issue. G4 NOW RUNS on MacBook Pro with ATI Radeon X1600. I un able to post or email the drivers, I hope this helps other. I will inform Knife Edge as well.

I am in exactly the same boat: my MacBook Pro with Radeon x1600 and Leopard/Boot Camp/XP runs G4 at about 0.8 frame/sec, and a lot of searching the web suggests that reverting to the old drivers from Boot Camp Beta is the only reliable solution.

Unfortunately, I never used Boot Camp Beta so I didn't make a driver install disk. Any help on where to find these old drivers or obtain a copy of such a disk would be greatly appreciated. Can one still cut such a disk by running the Tiger install disk? Maybe after setting back the system clock temporarily? Also, guidance on how to uninstall the newer drivers (i.e., how to identify the correct files) to do a clean install would be good, as I am a total Windows newb. (I have tried the latest drivers from Omega and AMD and they did not help...but maybe because I was not able to remove the Apple driver first.)

[Jacko_068]

I just bought the new 2.53 Ghz Mac book Pro with 4GB or RAM with NIVIDIA GeForce 9400M GT 512Mb of video memory.

I recently purchased G4 and am not sure about which windows XP operating system I should use for bootcamp so I can run G4 dose anybody know what I should be looking at getting?

[EKphys]

Hi all-

New to this forum...

Just got a new iMac.
Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.4 GHz
1 Gig ram
ATI Radeon HD 2400 video card

I'm using BootCamp to run Windows XP SP2 with VMware Fusion. I have RealFlight 4.5 up and running well.

I tried adjusting the RAM allocation in VMware, and made it worse as I increased the RAM. I think this is because it was competing with my iMac.

But RF 4.5 seems to do okay with this configuration.

I am having some challenges with the video driver. Anyone know if I can update the video drivers for this particular setup with a download?

-EJK : )

[JCP777]

I am running Gen 4.5 on my MacBook Pro 2.6 4 gig of ram.
Program runs great under Vista Ultimate.

[BlenderPilot]

I have a 2008 Black Plastic 2.4 Macbook in which under bootcamp G4 runs absolutely fantastic with no slowdowns whatsoever. BUT when I upgraded to G4.5
the frame rates dropped to an uncomfortable level.

Has anybody here gotten to upgrade to G4.5 with success?

[StarbaseX]

I'm similarly curious if anyone has successfully gotten RealFlight to work under Linux using wine / Cedega / something similar.
I have the G4 Demo version running perfectly in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 using Crossover (both Office and Games) and Wine-1.1.25 with keyboard control only on an AMD64x2 core system.

I also have my ancient G2 working perfectly in Linux but only to the point of an unplugged IC exactly as you would see in Windows with the IC uniit unplugged (controller message complete with back ground music and airfield smart a** remarks sound effects).

Problem preventing full functionality is Wine and Crossover do not yet support human interface devices. Linux does recognize the IC as a USB connected joystick (/dev/js0) but RealFlight.exe is looking for a HID. When HID support is implemented in Wine (not an emulator but a translator), I expect all Gx versions will run fine under Linux.

Added: Last time I checked the "billboard" from the G2 control panel, I was getting 400+ frames/sec and the graphics during flight from the demo run great without any pauses or slowdowns whatsoever :). This is with an older GeForce 6600. I may go for 4.5 if this continues.

[bucur]

Hello and sorry for ressurecting a rather old thread, but it's really my last resort.

I installed G4 on an 27" i5 intel imac and in short, I can't get it to work. Installed under Windows 7 first, and I got a stream of errors, namely

KEERROR 32434 the ADJ file 'c:\Program Files\realflightG3\data\RFV4_1.adj' is possibly corrupt. You may need to un-install and re-install the application.

KEERROR 32495 You may need to reinstall....

then

KEERROR 32494 Please contact technical support...

Blaming it on W7 and noticing tht running in XP compatibility mode gets rid of the first error, I dug out the good ol' XP sp3. To much dissapointment, same errors.
I should point out it was installed on several other non-Apple machines, working perfectly.

Any ideas?

[Norton]

It's Monday, contact technical support...


Not sure if they will be able to help you though, have your serial numbers handy.