G4 Issues...

[p.delorenzo]

Just a little thread to help KE improve G4 debugging. Here are what I have noticed:

1-As stated in another thread: G4 delete G3.5 laucher after the online update.
When I installed G4, and before any online update, I could use both G3.5 and G4 lauchers.
But, after updating G4 for the first time, "C:\Program Files\Common Files\KnifeEdge\Launcher.exe" was delete and replaced by "C:\Program Files\Common Files\KnifeEdge\LauncherHelperG4.exe" which is used by G4 to manage online updates.
The realG4 laucher is located at: "C:\Program Files\RealFlightG4\LauncherG4.exe"

2-When using G4 or G3.5 planes the smoke/retract switch is inverted from G3.5 experience on both Interlink Elite and Plus:
smoke/retract on when moving the stick toward you and off pushing away. This was inverted from G3.5.

3-When using G3.5 planes the dual rate swith is inverted from G3.5 experience on both Interlink Elite and Plus:
high rate on when moving the stick toward you and low rate on pushing away. This was inverted from G3.5.

I didn't test the 3-pos switch and the knob.

These are minor issues and could easily be corrected for next updates.

The point for 2 & 3 issues is to keep consistent flying experience between G3.5 and G4.

[0xdeadbeef]

http://www.knifeedge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18496

[p.delorenzo]

Yes, Jim is only of G3.5 imported planes:

There are two issues that you need to be aware of if you are planning to import your old G3.5 custom aircraft into your new installation of G4.

1. When you import an aircraft you may find that some switches are reversed.
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But what about G4 planes running in G4 sim with G4 controller (Interlink Elite)? As noticed in point 2, without taking into account G3.5 planes and controller I could have wrote:

2-In G4 simulator, when using G4 planes with G4 controller (interlink elite), the smoke/retract switch is inverted from what it's used to be in G3.5:
smoke/retract on when moving the stick toward you and off pushing away. This was inverted from what it's used to be in G3.5.

[p.delorenzo]

Another one, in Graphis->Quality, all parameters about water:

Water Quality
Water Particule Quality
Water Shadow Quality

The default value shown in parameters description is allways set to the current value set to this parameter!

Meaning there is no default values for these parameters?

[p.delorenzo]

In the aircraft editor I found the description about "CG Adjustment (mm)" still refers to "RealFlight G3"... thought I'm running G4!

This kind of description must be generic and set to RealFlight without any reference to a specific version.

BTW, I didn't chek all the parameters descriptions... :p

[p.delorenzo]

Another one, in Settings->Physics, "Use Metric Units" parameter's description refers, twice, to "RealFlight G3" instead of a generic "RealFlight".

[p.delorenzo]

If I change the Units used (Metric or Not) in the Settings->Physics panel while the variometer gadget is in use RF G4 crashes and return to desktop.

[p.delorenzo]

1-When you change the field while the variometer is in use the sound freeze and you must close and relaunch the variometer to get it work again! :eek:

2-In the settings panel there are a lot of parameters where you can set the sound level... but I can't find the parameter to set the variometer's sound level... :eek:

BTW, this is a great gadget... I will not bugging you if I don't use it!

[p.delorenzo]

Can someone from KE tell me if they are taking into account these issues and will correct them for the next update?

[rccardude04]

You can reverse every channel in "Channel Mapping" under the "Controller" menu.
You can even reverse the throttle.
Also, if you haven't updated, they fixed something about a switch being backwards.
It's a new program also. They'll release lots of updates like they did for G3. It'll just take a few weeks probably.
-Eric

[0xdeadbeef]

Can someone from KE tell me if they are taking into account these issues and will correct them for the next update?

If you would have been around here for longer, you'd know that KE almost never acknowledges bug reports or improvement suggestions and really NEVER promises a bug fix or feature for the next or any other release.

If you browse through the G3/G3.5 forums, you'll find a heap of bug reports and improvement suggestions. Almost none of them were ever implemented, even though some of them were acknowlegded to some degree.

Besides: KE (or let's say Jim) has emphasized several time that this is NOT the official support forum and NOT the place to post bugs and advised us instead to contact the official support. Then again, IMHO this doesn't make much of a difference.

[jeffpn]

Channels, man. Just because the janitor works at the hospital, like the doctor does, do you want the janitor doing your surgery? Or better yet, would you meet the surgeon and say, "Operate on me now! Don't worry about the protocol, etc!"

[jbourke]

We do try to catch all the bug reports posted in the forums. However, we do not necessarily read every post. So if you want to make sure we hear about the bug, please use the official support system.

Every bug reported to us is cataloged and prioritized.

Please help us by informing other users that the support line is the proper place for assistance with problems. We can't possibly respond to every question posted here. The idea of the forums is to let users help other users.

Jim

[Ryan Douglas]

We just posted a new update on the public beta site. It fixes the switch behavior on G3 aircraft imported into G4 so that they behave the way they did in G3. It also fixes the G3 references in setting descriptions.

Here are instructions for obtaining the update (http://www.knifeedge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18668).

[HX3D014]

Just a little thread to help KE improve G4 debugging. Here are what I have noticed:
Well done p.delorenzo :D

This thread sounds like it is not demanding, honest and to the point.
And you got a lot of points all in one clean straight thread without interruptions.

Good on ya mate :D

[p.delorenzo]

We just posted a new update on the public beta site. It fixes the switch behavior on G3 aircraft imported into G4 so that they behave the way they did in G3. It also fixes the G3 references in setting descriptions.

Here are instructions for obtaining the update (http://www.knifeedge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18668).

Hi Ryan,

thank you for beta release... I will take a ride with to see how it is.

I already tried variometer gadget issues on Beta35 and they are still there:

1-If I change the Units used (Metric or Not) in the Settings->Physics panel while the variometer gadget is in use RF G4 crashes and return to desktop.

2-When you change the field while the variometer is in use the sound freeze and you must close and relaunch the variometer to get it work again!

3-In the settings panel there are a lot of parameters where you can set the sound level... but I can't find the parameter to set the variometer's sound level...

Just to notice something... Crash issues are set a high priority where I'm working. But it sound like it's different to KE :confused: ... I found 2 CTD, one for G4 and one for G3.5 and they are not already solved. Even knowing they are pretty easy to fix... :(

[josh0987]

Hi Ryan,

thank you for beta release... I will take a ride with to see how it is.

I already tried variometer gadget issues on Beta35 and they are still there:

1-If I change the Units used (Metric or Not) in the Settings->Physics panel while the variometer gadget is in use RF G4 crashes and return to desktop.

2-When you change the field while the variometer is in use the sound freeze and you must close and relaunch the variometer to get it work again!

3-In the settings panel there are a lot of parameters where you can set the sound level... but I can't find the parameter to set the variometer's sound level...

Just to notice something... Crash issues are set a high priority where I'm working. But it sound like it's different to KE :confused: ... I found 2 CTD, one for G4 and one for G3.5 and they are not already solved. Even knowing they are pretty easy to fix... :(Heh, not a software defect. My computer runs even BETTER with G4! :D

[Norton]

[QUOTE=Ryan Douglas]We just posted a new update on the public beta site. It fixes the switch behavior on G3 aircraft imported into G4 so that they behave the way they did in G3. It also fixes the G3 references in setting descriptions.

I think if Ryan put out a update there was something wrong!!!

[Kmot]

In the Shipwreck sim, I have noticed that I can fly right through trees and not crash or even get buffeted. As an example, start at the spawn point and fly directly across the water to the 'island' and fly into a tree trunk. You will go right through it. Same with the tree branches.

Don't know if this is a "bug" or just supposed to be normal but thought I would mention it because I believe in G3.5 all trees in a sim will cause a crash.

[Kmot]

Well, weird but now when I fly over there and hit a tree I break up. Maybe it is just a few trees that don't and I hit them the first couple times I tried this.

:confused:

[r1derbike]

I have noticed on the shipwreck airport, there is a "glass wall" on the right side of the palm tree, behind the pilot.

The airplane hits the glass wall (collision mesh) and disintegrates, before it visually touches the trunk.

Charles

[Kmot]

Should the shadow from the palm fronds be showing on the ground? Because the wing should be blocking them?

[jeffpn]

Should the shadow from the palm fronds be showing on the ground? Because the wing should be blocking them?
That's the last straw!!! I'm canceling my order for G4!!!

[r1derbike]

Har! Good one, Jeff!

Yep, Kmot, you have WAY too much time on your hands!! :D

Charles

[Kmot]

Spending lots of time trying to tweak my video card so yeah I have seen lots of stuff.

jeffpn: stuff it you know where. :p

[jeffpn]

just havin' fun, kmot. ;)

[Kmot]

Me too! :p

[p.delorenzo]

Hi,

Seems there are multiplayer issues:
- multiple planes spawning at the same place crashing each others upon reset
- often a multiplayer session crash asking to send info to KE and then return t
desktop; don't know why; no matter if you're client or server (hosting)