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aiRhoG
04-28-2009, 10:21 AM
Hi does anyone else have this issue with real flight? The helicopters always drift left upon lift off no matter how much calibrating or adjusting they always drift left! I have purchased Real flight 3 and Real flight 4.5 and both of them do the same thing!

I have tried everything including purchasing the top of the line 7 Channel Spectrum Helicopter Radio and connecting it to the real flight controller (same result!) Is this in the programming? I love this simulator but this is really P_SS_ng me off now!

Can anyone help please?

Thanks in advance from the AirHog :eek: . If you ever fly with me you will see why!

Spareparts
04-28-2009, 10:28 AM
Are you saying that they drift left more than a real heli would?

I'd say it was normal for a heli except when you say you can't trim it out. I think its a mistake to trim out the heli's natural drift (due to the tail rotor), but if you can't trim the heli to drift right, then something is wrong.

Edit: I think the best controller to use with RealFlight is the Interlink Elite that comes with it.

jeffpn
04-28-2009, 10:31 AM
It's a normal thing. You need to learn to pilot the aircraft.

aiRhoG
04-28-2009, 10:42 AM
Yes, I agree with you that there is some drift on the real thing. but what I am saying is that it will actually just start drifting left even on the ground as you start to power up! Thanks for your comments! AirHog.....

aiRhoG
04-28-2009, 10:46 AM
It's a normal thing. You need to learn to pilot the aircraft.

Does your Real Flight G4.5 drift left with the heli ?

:confused:

jeffpn
04-28-2009, 10:54 AM
Of course. You have to counteract that yourself. Stock aircraft in RF really don't require any trims.

aiRhoG
04-28-2009, 11:03 AM
Of course. You have to counteract that yourself. Stock aircraft in RF really don't require any trims.

Hmmmm Ok so I guess you have a great point and have proven something here, you have the same issue! I realize that you do have to compensate for any adjustment discrepancies if there are any, but I would think that you should be able to get to absolute (0) on all control adjustments and the heli should just fly neutral on lift off then you are really flying a well balanced aircraft and would not have to be compensating through all your aerobatics as well which really kinda suks...

Chris McVey
04-28-2009, 11:03 AM
Have you calibrated your controller?


Thanks Chris McVey

aiRhoG
04-28-2009, 11:11 AM
Have you calibrated your controller?


Thanks Chris McVey

Oh yea, I have worn out that part of the program! I have two different versions and controllers as well and the 7 channel radio and all have been calibrated and re-calibrated countless times, I really would not have posted this thread without the obvious fix's, but I really appreciate your help... the Hog out.... :D

K-n-D
04-28-2009, 11:12 AM
...but I would think that you should be able to get to absolute (0) on all control adjustments and the heli should just fly neutral on lift off then you are really flying a well balanced aircraft and would not have to be compensating through all your aerobatics as well which really kinda suks...
I wasn't aware that any chopper flys without churning the stick like you're making butter. You're constantly countering any drift the chopper wants to do. My sim choppers do it, my R/C choppers do it, and my H500 (full size) does it. That's the thrill of heli's!!!!

The only heli I've seen fly without constant correction is the co-axial version.

aiRhoG
04-28-2009, 11:15 AM
I wasn't aware that any chopper flys without churning the stick like you're making butter. You're constantly countering any drift the chopper wants to do. My sim choppers do it, my R/C choppers do it, and my H500 (full size) does it. That's the thrill of heli's!!!!

The only heli I've seen fly without constant correction is the co-axial version.

Thank YOU! Now that makes sense to me, I think you have solved my problem! It must designed into the programming for realism, I was curious if other peeps that purchased this were having the same experience.

Thanks.... :cool:

jeffpn
04-28-2009, 11:24 AM
You're constantly countering any drift the chopper wants to do.I think spareparts said the same thing in post #2.


Did he just say, 'Peeps?' :rolleyes:

aiRhoG
04-28-2009, 11:30 AM
I think spareparts said the same thing in post #2.


Did he just say, 'Peeps?' :rolleyes:

Yes you are a peep! and Rodger that! :D

K-n-D
04-28-2009, 11:50 AM
I think spareparts said the same thing in post #2.


Did he just say, 'Peeps?' :rolleyes:Yeah, but I didn't mention the tail rotor. Well... at least the rest of my response was original. I apologize for having that phrase in my reply. :rolleyes:

opjose
04-28-2009, 12:03 PM
We need a sticky titled:

"Yes REAL Helis drift left! - Don't ask! "

As this question gets asked so often.

aiRhoG
04-28-2009, 12:08 PM
We need a sticky titled:

"Yes REAL Helis drift left! - Don't ask! "

As this question gets asked so often.

Yes I should have done more research at this website then I would not have came of like a total noob ..... crash and burn! :D

aiRhoG
04-28-2009, 12:18 PM
Yeah, but I didn't mention the tail rotor. Well... at least the rest of my response was original. I apologize for having that phrase in my reply. :rolleyes:

Thanks again! You put me on to the truth, and after researching real helicopters, you were right on the money, Now can you please take me for a ride in your real heli? I will need to see proof for myself.... LOL Thanks...later :cool:

K-n-D
04-28-2009, 12:49 PM
Thanks again! You put me on to the truth, and after researching real helicopters, you were right on the money, Now can you please take me for a ride in your real heli? I will need to see proof for myself.... LOL Thanks...later :cool:No need to thank me again. That was a sarcastic reply to jeffpn, who always has some smart ass comment. Part of why I never post on here!! I must be bored today...

Wanna ride? I'll take ya up in my Christen Eagle, too. Pay for fuel and I get more aerobatic hours - from mild to wild...

321
04-28-2009, 01:47 PM
Just to be clear, real RC helis with a clockwise main rotor rotation drift left. Almost all of the pod and boom models turn clockwise. But real scale RC helis and real get-in-and-drive helis often have a counterclockwise rotation and therefore drift right.

aiRhoG
04-28-2009, 01:56 PM
Just to be clear, real RC helis with a clockwise main rotor rotation drift left. Almost all of the pod and boom models turn clockwise. But real scale RC helis and real get-in-and-drive helis often have a counterclockwise rotation and therefore drift right.


Good to know, thanks, so I wont crash my new full size! I wish! :D

K-n-D
04-28-2009, 02:15 PM
Just to be clear, real RC helis with a clockwise main rotor rotation drift left. Almost all of the pod and boom models turn clockwise. But real scale RC helis and real get-in-and-drive helis often have a counterclockwise rotation and therefore drift right.
For R/C, I've always applied the rule of thumb that whatever side the tail rotor is on, the chopper will drift the opposite. Basically, the tail pushes the chopper. However, I've noticed that some R/C helis have CCW rotation but the tail rotor is still on the right. Therefore the tail pulls the chopper. Does that hold true with any full size? I can't seem to find any info on that.

We gotta be careful, though. Don't wanna get chastised for talking about "real" aircraft...

Spareparts
04-28-2009, 02:31 PM
We gotta be careful, though. Don't wanna get chastised for talking about "real" aircraft...That's a good point. I forgot that we can't mention real R/C helis on the forum. From now on we'll just say that RealFlight behaves just like an unmentionable.

K-n-D
04-28-2009, 02:41 PM
That's a good point. I forgot that we can't mention real R/C helis on the forum. From now on we'll just say that RealFlight behaves just like an unmentionable.
Okey-dokey...

10inja
04-29-2009, 02:20 AM
Hey there,

you're now in the same shoes I was in when I first started. (just a couple weeks ago)

got my TRex 500 ESP all setup and built, and spent a month to get it perfect, got my LHS manager to make all adjustsments needed, he flew it and tracked the blades and said it was perfect..

got it home and wanted to fly it for the first time (never flown anything before).. as soon as it gets just a tad light on the skids, it takes off to the left quick..
went back and checked with LHS and online and found out that "It's Supppose to be that way"

that's the effect of the tail and the ground

my heli still goes left even when I'm hovering at 2 to 3 or even 4 feet high. they all say that to hover is a constant fight to keep the heli in one place.

I checked with Real Flight 4.5 and it's pretty much the same as the real heli

Don't try to trim it out,

So, the best way is to be prepared to counteract and to not baby the throttle on take off too much, ya have to be very careful but once you try it a few times, you'll know how much throttle to give it on take off and all is just fine

aiRhoG
04-29-2009, 09:17 AM
Hey there,

you're now in the same shoes I was in when I first started. (just a couple weeks ago)

got my TRex 500 ESP all setup and built, and spent a month to get it perfect, got my LHS manager to make all adjustsments needed, he flew it and tracked the blades and said it was perfect..

got it home and wanted to fly it for the first time (never flown anything before).. as soon as it gets just a tad light on the skids, it takes off to the left quick..
went back and checked with LHS and online and found out that "It's Supppose to be that way"

that's the effect of the tail and the ground

my heli still goes left even when I'm hovering at 2 to 3 or even 4 feet high. they all say that to hover is a constant fight to keep the heli in one place.

I checked with Real Flight 4.5 and it's pretty much the same as the real heli

Don't try to trim it out,

So, the best way is to be prepared to counteract and to not baby the throttle on take off too much, ya have to be very careful but once you try it a few times, you'll know how much throttle to give it on take off and all is just fine

Thanks for your input on this! I now know what to expect when I have actual $$ in the air, thank GOD for SIMS, I guess Real Flight is the REAL DEAL then! At last count I have crashed 200 billion dollars worth of virtual aircraft.
Keep the Blades up and the skids down......Hog ......out :cool:

opjose
04-29-2009, 11:48 AM
Thanks for your input on this! I now know what to expect when I have actual $$ in the air, thank GOD for SIMS, I guess Real Flight is the REAL DEAL then! At last count I have crashed 200 billion dollars worth of virtual aircraft.
Keep the Blades up and the skids down......Hog ......out :cool:

Yeah.

Also do not overestimate what the sim is teaching you.

Assume your real world proficiency equates to about half of what you are able to achieve in the sim.

In other words, if you feel you may be ready for the real deal, because you can do things like hover in the sim, etc.... you probably are NOT ready yet for the real thing.

Once the helis in the sim seem like second nature, and you feel like you would have no problem with inverted flight, you may be ready for a go with the real thing.

Better to err on the side of safety, instead of crashing your new bird. And even then there are many things the sim will not fully simulate, that you will experience out at the field... week knees being one.