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Boof69
04-05-2012, 08:59 AM
This is the Italian built and flown WWII fighter the Macchi C.202. Folgore (Lightning)
I'm building this model by request for Ubird. It's a lesser known yet impressive fighter. Lots of room for details on this bird.

brields
04-05-2012, 01:09 PM
If you can do an F4U-1, You can do an MC.202.
as far as being lesser known, it's actually one of if not the most famous Italian fighter(s) of WWII.

Boof69
04-05-2012, 02:22 PM
Probably most Italian fighters were well known in Italy. You don't hear the name kicked around much where I'm from. Good to hear you have heard about it though. Go Brields! :)

pplace
04-05-2012, 02:26 PM
I like the request! True it isn't a Mustang, Corsair, P-47, Zero, Me 109, Bf 109, etc. I would agree it is a fairly well known aircraft. I have also seen some very nice scale rc models of it as well. With that aside, I can't wait to watch another model take shape.

Boof69
04-05-2012, 02:42 PM
Thanks Dane.
I guess I'm just new to the WWII warbird Genre. Oh well live and learn. :)

U-Bird
04-05-2012, 03:01 PM
A plane with lots of skin detail, lots of stencils, and a hard color scheme to duplicate, it will test the great Boof's magic and talents. However, there is no doubt that this will be another outstanding model and his BEST to date. As usual I will provide all the research I can dig up to help with your endeavor and provide what help I can. Hey, you know me. Many thanks Scott, for taking on this project. Many thanks.

frontman
04-10-2012, 10:06 PM
It's nice to see lesser known aircraft being modeled. I would love to see a Russian I-16 in realflight. Any takers?

jeffpn
04-10-2012, 10:15 PM
I don't know what that is. You may want to post your request in the proper thread. http://www.knifeedge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27848 Don't forget to post 3-views and reference pictures.

Boof69
04-10-2012, 11:10 PM
I was at a bit of a stale mate with the aft section of the canopy on this one. While it's still not right it looks far better than before. I haven't put much time in on this one. I've been on a self imposed break with modeling that was supposed to last until I got back from Toledo, but With nothing else to do tonight I gave it another go. Here are some shots.

pplace
04-10-2012, 11:28 PM
Looking like a one man submarine! That rear turtledeck does look tricky, it's looking good already.

Boof69
04-11-2012, 03:12 PM
Moving along with even more fuselage details. I added what I think is the turbo charger intake,12 port inline exhausts, nose gun ports, antenna, cockpit roughed in, more canopy and turtle deck tweaking. This one has some tricky areas but I'm getting there.

willsonman
04-11-2012, 04:05 PM
Looks great. Those details must be eating your polys alive.

Boof69
04-11-2012, 04:14 PM
They are. Just the fuse accounts for 2943 polys. Luckily most of the details are on the fuse itself.

Boof69
04-11-2012, 08:14 PM
The vertical has some shading errors that I'm having a hard time sorting out right now. The wings have to be joined to the fuse before I can model in the rear intake.
It's looking more like an airplane instead of a submarine now.

herc40
04-11-2012, 11:09 PM
Awesome work already on this on Boof. Lots of nice detail

Boof69
04-11-2012, 11:15 PM
Thanks Herc

Boof69
04-12-2012, 11:02 PM
Got allot more progress done on the Macchi before taking off to Toledo tomorrow morning. The Intakes, split flaps, wing union and a full tail rework are done. I also went over the model reclaiming polys where possible. I'm feeling comfortable on this one at 6,248 polys. Here are some clay renders.

pplace
04-13-2012, 07:57 AM
Wow, nuff said!

Madratter
04-13-2012, 09:12 AM
Got allot more progress done on the Macchi before taking off to Toledo tomorrow morning. The Intakes, split flaps, wing union and a full tail rework are done. I also went over the model reclaiming polys where possible. I'm feeling comfortable on this one at 6,248 polys. Here are some clay renders.

I can't believe you managed that level of detail with that few polys. :)

abaser
04-13-2012, 09:46 AM
As you progress, you will come to understand that a lot of times, your focus turns to edge flow rather than faces to create things. At least that has been my experience.

csgill75
04-15-2012, 08:23 PM
Looks great! I have a VQ Models MC 205 here from a friend of mine which looks very close to this aircraft :)

Boof69
04-15-2012, 08:27 PM
Thanks glad you like it. :)

Boof69
04-16-2012, 08:35 PM
This is really my first full day that I could put towards the Macchi since getting back from Toledo. I did a rework on the canopy. You'll notice that it is now round instead of having corners. The H-Stab fairing is added and the turbo charger intake/sand filter has been fit more closely to the fuse and I've added corrugation. The rear radiator has been redone with a more proper squared off appearance. The shudder is also added there. The front radiator has been shaped more correctly with it's shudder added as well. The landing gear have been started. So the wells are roughed in and the doors are attached to the gear but not much more detail than that is in that area yet. I have many things left to do as far as details go. For one the flaps are segmented apparently and I have yet to do that. Tail wheel gear still is not made. Probably too many things to mention. I'm at 10,012 polys as of right now. My poly count usually jumps like this once I make the wheels. Here are some renders.

Boof69
04-18-2012, 07:23 PM
Just a picture post update. Lots of small details have been added, but overall the differences might be hard to spot.

Boof69
04-23-2012, 05:05 PM
Even though I don't have the modeling complete or mapping for that matter I have the Macchi in RF and it is flying quite well. Albeit overpowered the balance is really nice. I do have one problem maybe someone can help me with. The flaps are split on the Macchi and I thought I would emulate that more closely by adding moveable pods and wings under the main wings. The problem is that they seem to behave like airbrakes over quarter throttle and drag the nose down. I'm using balsa flat stab for the airfoil. Maybe control surfaces applied the normal way are calculated with the wing and this method is not. Has anyone ever tried this before?

willsonman
04-23-2012, 05:17 PM
You can actually add a second flap in the same location of the same size only not deploy it. That may give you the effect you are looking for. It seems to on the Dauntless and Helldiver when lower flaps are used.

Boof69
04-23-2012, 05:18 PM
Ah ok seems plausible. I'll try it and let you know. Thanks.

Boof69
04-23-2012, 06:06 PM
I just learned another lesson in RF editing. Thanks willsonman it worked like a charm.:)

willsonman
04-23-2012, 06:11 PM
No Problem

willsonman
04-23-2012, 06:13 PM
Now some times you do have to think outside the box. Check out my B6N2 Tenzan for the flaps there. I did have to use pods due to the rotation. Got the right effect luckily though.

Boof69
04-23-2012, 06:18 PM
I thought I was thinking outside the box at first. I don't know that your solution would have occurred to me naturally.

U-Bird
04-27-2012, 11:30 AM
4 days ago, Boof let us all know that he had this Macchi flying in RF and that there was plenty of work left to do. Now what my friend Scott did not say or even hint at, is how well this plane is flying in RF. Let me be the 1st to say, this plane is a real sweet heart, and flies like a home sick angel. She'll do fast, she'll do slow, and everything in between as the fighter plane she represents.
I think Scott is pulling out all the stops as she is all ready fine, and all I can get him to say is...........Wait untill she is finished.
I'm waiting, and flying her as she is and all I can say is.........Your going to have to have one for yourself...........well, as soon as ALL his magic is finished.
See shots.

U-Bird
04-27-2012, 11:35 AM
I think this will be a plane that will gro on some and the more they see it and fly her, well your just going to have to try her out around the patch.

U-Bird
04-27-2012, 11:40 AM
Scot's built he big, she's in the same size range as his wonderful Corsair, so when finished, she'll make for a fine presentation on screen and in the air.

Boof69
05-04-2012, 02:30 PM
So it's been quite a while since I've personally updated for the Macchi. I've finally made some headway with her after many spring cleaning chores and honey dos.
The modeling and physics portions are now finished and the mapping and CS is left to do. I added rudder pedals, stick, seat, and other cockpit controls. The iron sights are added and much work has went into the landing gear and wells. The gear retract and the wheel contacts an armature that pulls up the inner gear doors and that animation is working well. Also the locking supports look good animated. Here she is in a golden paint job.

Boof69
05-07-2012, 09:42 PM
So you know how some models are a breeze to map and things just go easy? This is not one of those models. Every part has been a pain with this bird. There are more details than are easy to notice in previous pics. This is a general start with all the little details left to map.

pplace
05-07-2012, 10:42 PM
That last pic reminds me of those 3D pictures you would stare at until an image appeared!

Boof69
05-07-2012, 10:50 PM
I like that look.

jeffpn
05-08-2012, 07:10 AM
That last pic reminds me of those 3D pictures you would stare at until an image appeared!

Yeah, but the image is already there!!

Boof, how many of those posters do you still have? I think I have 3 of them.

Boof69
05-08-2012, 10:33 AM
I have an oversized book of them. It was a bday gift I believe.

jeffpn
05-08-2012, 10:37 AM
I remember that book!

I remember the first time I saw one of those posters, I stared at it (Statue of Liberty one) for an hour in the mall. I couldn't see the image. I bought it, took it home, and stared at it the rest of the evening before I could see it!!

Boof69
05-08-2012, 10:39 AM
Its an aquired skill. The stereograms I posted for the Ryan work the same way.

Kmot
05-08-2012, 12:01 PM
Those pic's are giving me 'flashbacks' to the Sixties! :p

Boof69
05-10-2012, 11:06 PM
I finally finished all the mapping and have moved on to the CS. This is a asymmetrical CS which makes it a bit more involved but different from previous models. So far I just have color blocked in no bump or spec to speak of.
Here are some renders and screenies from RF.

Norton
05-10-2012, 11:09 PM
Nice....

Maj. Numbskully
05-10-2012, 11:14 PM
very nice.....

Boof69
05-10-2012, 11:15 PM
It's real different I think but it's grown on me.

Boof69
05-13-2012, 12:23 AM
There are some differences believe it or not between the last picture post and this. I've connected the green camo across all surfaces that don't touch on the map so the flow is much nicer now and I've started in on some detail. Things should start picking up from here.

csgill75
05-13-2012, 02:25 AM
looks good Boof. I cannot wait to try it out. I however will make a Electric AV to go along with the Real RC Macchi that i have here. The paint scheme of this and the one that i have are also similar.:D

jeffpn
05-15-2012, 11:49 AM
Your model looks great. Very nice lines on the camo, and the shape in general.

Boof69
05-15-2012, 11:52 AM
Thanks Jeff. It's been a real challenge to get everything lined up on the CS. I like the way it's headed.:)

jeffpn
05-15-2012, 11:53 AM
I like the way it's headed.:)Toward the long part of the runway is good! :p

Boof69
05-16-2012, 12:46 AM
Started Bump tonight. I am putting some detail in the wheel well (or whatever you call it.) and have most the panel lines in. I will need to go back to max with the bump map applied as the classic map and tweak the mapping to get the kinks out that I couldn't see the first time around. So here are the progress shots.

U-Bird
05-16-2012, 09:33 AM
OUTSTANDING!!!!!!! How SWEET it Is!!!!!!

Boof69
05-16-2012, 11:20 AM
Thanks Rick.:)

Madratter
05-16-2012, 12:50 PM
Wow. :)

Boof69
05-17-2012, 11:40 PM
Some more pics.

Norton
05-18-2012, 12:55 AM
Great detail Boof!

Kmot
05-18-2012, 02:16 AM
This has always been a favorite WWII plane of mine and I am really happy to see it coming to the sim. :)

Boof69
05-18-2012, 08:13 AM
Great detail Boof!
This plane has so much surface detail and signage. Its taking a real while to lay it all in.
This has always been a favorite WWII plane of mine and I am really happy to see it coming to the sim. :)
I think you"ll like the she flies too. I'm very happy with the physics. :)

U-Bird
05-18-2012, 10:32 AM
She"s lookin sssssooooooooooo fine, oooooh yea!!!!!

Boof69
05-19-2012, 02:02 PM
Nothing big I just like how the wing root turned out. It's 100% bump.

jeffpn
05-19-2012, 02:06 PM
Nice job. It's amazing what a good bump can do.

Boof69
05-19-2012, 02:08 PM
Thanks. I just keep adding stuff on this one. It feels like I'm never gunna be done.

Boof69
05-22-2012, 12:38 AM
Getting closer now.

U-Bird
05-22-2012, 09:13 AM
Oooooooohhh.......i like it !!!!!! Ssswwweeeeeet!!!!!

brields
05-26-2012, 01:39 AM
Looks like KE is feeling outdone, Boof. They'r sending there own ME-109 up to
play with the Corsair and the Folgore. :p

Junkboy999
05-26-2012, 07:35 PM
she's a beauty Scott :)

flexible
05-26-2012, 08:08 PM
He's ALIVE, he's alive.

Boof69
05-27-2012, 12:52 AM
Thanks Terry. Much appreciated.

Boof69
05-28-2012, 11:45 AM
A couple of holiday renders....

Maj. Numbskully
05-28-2012, 12:18 PM
Just Freaking beautiful boof !

Boof69
05-28-2012, 02:08 PM
Thanks Maj. I'm getting real close now. I might of had her done today but my house is always where the family gets together.

brields
05-28-2012, 02:35 PM
Just upload it already! :p

Maj. Numbskully
05-28-2012, 03:04 PM
We Serve no Wine , Before its time

U-Bird
05-28-2012, 03:09 PM
AAAAAAAAMMEN to that!!! And its up to the ARTIST, he'll determine when it is finished! When BOOF is through pouring substantial amounts of "P F M" all over this baby, she'll be ready for everyone. Especially ME!!!

Boof69
05-31-2012, 11:04 PM
We Serve no Wine , Before its time

Am I Ernest or Gulio? :)

Boof69
05-31-2012, 11:12 PM
Very flattering Rick. Thanks.

I think Tomorrow is the time to release this bird. I guess I could hang on longer and try to put on more detail, but that could be a never ending task. One needs to stop somewhere so I'm done.:) Here are some renders and RF screenys.

Madratter
05-31-2012, 11:17 PM
Wow! And I definitely need to learn how you are setting up your renders.

Boof69
05-31-2012, 11:25 PM
I can help you with that. Thanks.

Fly_electric
06-01-2012, 12:04 AM
Good, clean design for the time. Interesting how the side photo resembles another rare bird from those days: He-100.

Photo from luftwaffewest web site (full size replica):
http://luftwaffewest.com/he100.htm

Great work as always boof!

Boof69
06-01-2012, 12:09 AM
I would say that the Macchi 202 most resembles the ME 109. Probably for a reason.;)

Fly_electric
06-01-2012, 12:22 AM
Indeed.

Maj. Numbskully
06-01-2012, 12:22 AM
Very nice job boof
I really like the weathering job

Fly_electric
06-01-2012, 12:26 AM
I think Tomorrow is the time to release this bird.

Is it midnight yet??:)

Amazing work as always boof. Many people are going to enjoy this one!

Boof69
06-01-2012, 12:26 AM
Thanks Maj. I used sketchbook and my wacom 12x12 to do most of it.

Boof69
06-01-2012, 12:28 AM
Is it midnight yet??:)

Amazing work as always boof. Many people are going to enjoy this one!

Thanks. I hope that many people do.

Maj. Numbskully
06-01-2012, 12:32 AM
Sketchbook ............really !!
wow, looks top shelf

Boof69
06-01-2012, 12:39 AM
I meant the weathering was done with sketchbook not the whole CS.

Kmot
06-01-2012, 12:24 PM
I really like how you guys do those 'polished floors' in your display renders. Reminds me of the Blackhawk Automotive Museum that is all black inside to show off the cars really nicely.

http://www.blackhawkmuseum.org/images/autogalshots5.jpg

Boof69
06-01-2012, 03:21 PM
For Brields and PPlace, While looking up information to include in the description for the Macchi I came across the Smithsonian's website page for the Macchi 202. The first line is this: "Virtually unknown outside Italy, the C.202 Folgore was the best fighter airplane fielded in significant numbers by the Regia Aeronautica (Italian Royal Air Force or RA) during World War II". I know we discussed this at the very beginning of this thread but since this supports my original view....:p

pplace
06-01-2012, 06:19 PM
For Brields and PPlace, While looking up information to include in the description for the Macchi I came across the Smithsonian's website page for the Macchi 202. The first line is this: "Virtually unknown outside Italy, the C.202 Folgore was the best fighter airplane fielded in significant numbers by the Regia Aeronautica (Italian Royal Air Force or RA) during World War II". I know we discussed this at the very beginning of this thread but since this supports my original view....:p

Oh crap, I'm in real good company there!:p That's your story I'll stick to mine, since it's not an "obscure" aircraft to me:D

brields
06-01-2012, 07:25 PM
For Brields and PPlace, While looking up information to include in the description for the Macchi I came across the Smithsonian's website page for the Macchi 202. The first line is this: "Virtually unknown outside Italy, the C.202 Folgore was the best fighter airplane fielded in significant numbers by the Regia Aeronautica (Italian Royal Air Force or RA) during World War II". I know we discussed this at the very beginning of this thread but since this supports my original view....:p

No, I'll stick to my "story", thank you!
Fact is, that air plane is not "virtually unknown" outside of Italy.
I won't go into the math equation that's running through my mind, but I'm
just saying, I don't believe it. mission impossible.

Boof69
06-01-2012, 07:39 PM
Now I don't know what to think.

willsonman
06-01-2012, 07:49 PM
Planes like this I love for the obscurity. My favorite fighter almost nobody has ever heard of. The FFVS J-22. I did do a RF model for it awhile ago. Love it. Very rich history as well. Lookinf forward to my maiden with her.

jeffpn
06-01-2012, 07:50 PM
Boof, wouldn't you just love a peak at Brields "math equation?"

I love your pic!!!

Boof69
06-01-2012, 07:53 PM
I didn't know stats are figured out by equations. Hmm
Thanks I like it too.

Maj. Numbskully
06-01-2012, 08:01 PM
My 2 cents.....
I have been familiar with Macchi 202 for years ..
It is rarely mentioned (just like many of Russia's excellent WWII birds)
It cant be that obscure .....or this build thread would not even exist;) :p

U-Bird
06-01-2012, 08:27 PM
Yes, Maj.,your right. There were many Lavochkin, Mig and Yak Russian fighters that were fine planes, and some of the later Japanese planes, like the Ki61 and Ki84 were not only fine fighter planes, they were also very pleasing to look at. Fine designs all.

Boof69
06-01-2012, 08:34 PM
My 2 cents.....
I have been familiar with Macchi 202 for years ..
It is rarely mentioned (just like many of Russia's excellent WWII birds)
It cant be that obscure .....or this build thread would not even exist;) :p

I'm just sayin'.......:)

Maj. Numbskully
06-01-2012, 08:37 PM
Yes, Maj.,your right. There were many Lavochkin, Mig and Yak Russian fighters that were fine planes,
See what I mean ..........
Don't forget the Lagg ;):p


"Obscurity " is regional for the lack of a better term...
You can bet any Italian kid knows what a 202 was
Just Like any Russian Kid knows what a Lagg 3 is
ask the average American kid or even an adult about either of those 2 and you may very well get a blank stare

Boof69
06-01-2012, 08:43 PM
Well to be fair he is the one that requested it. Hence why I'm building it. So of course he knew of it.

Boof69
06-01-2012, 08:57 PM
Posted (http://www.knifeedge.com/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=16850)

Fly_electric
06-01-2012, 09:24 PM
Excellent work boof!

Boof69
06-01-2012, 09:25 PM
Thank you sir.

U-Bird
06-01-2012, 09:48 PM
She's SSSSOOOOOOOO Fine!!!

U-Bird
06-01-2012, 09:53 PM
Just look at her, she's a real looker!!!!!!

Boof69
06-01-2012, 09:56 PM
Keep enjoying her. It was allot of work but I enjoyed every minute working on it except for those that I didn't.:D

Boof69
06-01-2012, 10:17 PM
I was wondering if anyone would mind checking to see if the Macchi has a drum sound when landing. It doesn't happen for me at all but I've been PMed that this is happening for someone. I believe that this is a problem on their end but I would like confirmation. Thanks.

Madratter
06-01-2012, 10:17 PM
Stunning work and definitely worth the wait. The attention to detail is just amazing. This does just gorgeous slow rolls. :D

Boof69
06-01-2012, 10:19 PM
Thanks MR.

Madratter
06-01-2012, 10:20 PM
I was wondering if anyone would mind checking to see if the Macchi has a drum sound when landing. It doesn't happen for me at all but I've been PMed that this is happening for someone. I believe that this is a problem on their end but I would like confirmation. Thanks.

I hear nothing that is abnormal even when I land quite close by. I do see some errors about missing components though. I'll post a screen shot. [Posted]

uncle twist
06-01-2012, 10:27 PM
Great job Boof, yes, I`m getting a drum sound also. Another thing (I`ve never seen, or tried before), while hitting the "F" key, the plane will lose a piece or pieces with every tap of the key:eek::eek:. Pretty funny actually. I discovered this while doing a walk around, hitting the "F" instead of "D".:p

Boof69
06-01-2012, 10:30 PM
You must have kablooey and destroy vehicle enabled. The F key is the failure key so it destroys the vehicle when combined with kablooey.
That's odd that some have a drum sound and others do not.

Boof69
06-01-2012, 10:37 PM
Ok so I pulled the upload and fixed the landing gear error. It's reuploaded with that fixed. I can not recreate the drum sound to fix it so it will have to do.

uncle twist
06-01-2012, 10:45 PM
AH-HAA !!!,I`ve only heard of kablooey, never tried it. Throttle up seems a little sluggish. Is that my end ??

Boof69
06-02-2012, 06:49 AM
Just to clarify. Brields did not add guns in his AV as he states in his description. The guns are in the engine to show option added by me. I made them mistakenly thinking that the 202 had them but was informed that the wing guns were only on the 205. I put them there as a kind of easter egg instead of deleting. Brields you should have known the reason they aren't there by default.:rolleyes:

Fly_electric
06-02-2012, 09:56 AM
Throttle up seems a little sluggish. Is that my end ??

Was under the impression the throttle response rate was controlled by
1. servo speed (important for geared electrics to prevent gear damage by rapid speed changes)
2. RF seems to adjust for the fact there is a noticeable time lag in starting/stopping the rotating mass of a larger prop.

Fly_electric
06-02-2012, 09:59 AM
fixed the landing gear error

error ????

Madratter
06-02-2012, 10:38 AM
error ????

See the screenshot in my post #112. As Boof says, it is now fixed.

Boof69
06-02-2012, 09:47 PM
AH-HAA !!!,I`ve only heard of kablooey, never tried it. Throttle up seems a little sluggish. Is that my end ??

It's not a throttle response problem nor is a problem at all. It is a built in torque curve designed to give a more scale look and feel to take offs. I have many hours on this plane and it's not been a problem.

uncle twist
06-02-2012, 10:59 PM
Thanks Boof, that`s what I thought, just wanted to make sure I was`nt having a prob on my end that came with the thud, that only some (including me)hear upon landing ;) personally, I like the thud. Gives it kind of a balsa wood sound :D

Boof69
06-02-2012, 11:03 PM
Nope no problems all planned. The landing sound is out of my control anyways. Between airframe material and wheel type I have no other control.

uncle twist
06-02-2012, 11:14 PM
Yep, I tried to eliminate the sound for Gibsons stearman. Before I started that CS, he had stated in an earlier post that he would prefer not to hear it. Try as might, I could`nt eliminate it either ;)

Fly_electric
06-03-2012, 08:57 PM
Well, it's been 2 days since the Macchi C.202 was posted on the swaps.
Anyone heard from U-Bird? :D

Madratter
06-03-2012, 09:07 PM
Well, it's been 2 days since the Macchi C.202 was posted on the swaps.
Anyone heard from U-Bird? :D

Yeah, he rated it. :)

jeffpn
06-03-2012, 09:08 PM
Anyone heard from U-Bird? :DYes, he came over. I made him tea. We had biscuits, too. It was a grand time!!

Fly_electric
06-03-2012, 09:20 PM
Yes, he came over. I made him tea. We had biscuits, too. It was a grand time!!
Really? Did he get the interlink surgically removed from his hands so he could drive?? :D
Seriously, we do know how much he likes that excellent model!!

flexible
06-03-2012, 09:40 PM
(Anyone heard from U-Bird?)
I have talked to him everyday this week. I don't know if he is in love, or just in heat, he keeps showing me the picture of his love. Hehe.

Boof69
06-08-2012, 12:47 AM
Quote from flexible's comments for the Macchi.

Where do I start. Overall, Quite Masterfull. The paint is a work of art, 100. The modeling, while not flauless, outstanding just the same. The canopy does drag into the fuse, and leave large gaps at the back. The flaps, when closed, do have isues, at the trailing edge, where the long and short come together, 95. I do take, isues with the flight. At 11ft. , it is a large scale (Big Bird). It is probably14 lbs too light, has much to fast of a rool rate, has way to much rudder autharity, and the off power sink rate, not even close. It hovers like an ugly stick with a pipe. In level flight mine does climb, all trims centered, and calibrated. While a good flyer, not true to large scale. The gun fire looks so real, I had to duck, he he. The gear looks very scale when opening and closeing. 100.

I'll take all the comments at face value and even agree (i guess) save one. The large gaps at the back of the canopy are part of the design. Much like the Corsair the turtle deck is indented and the canopy left gaped to allow a sight line for the pilot rearward. I appreciate you taking the time to write such a detailed review. I can't remember another model scrutinized so closely ever. Thanks Flex.

flexible
06-08-2012, 07:13 AM
I stand corected about the gaps, I will change the post as soon as the thread comes back up.
My comits were not intended to be critical.

jeffpn
06-08-2012, 07:17 AM
I will change the post as soon as the thread comes back up.

Wow. I've never seen the swap pages down for maintenance before. I wonder if they're cleaning out the crap files?!?! :D

flexible
06-08-2012, 07:37 AM
Are any of you'res missing?

willsonman
06-08-2012, 07:49 AM
cleaning up the magic 5ers! that will be the day.

Boof69
06-08-2012, 08:15 AM
Are any of you'res missing?

How can anyone know that until the swaps are back up?

Kmot
06-08-2012, 11:12 AM
It was a joke I'm sure. ;)

Boof69
06-08-2012, 11:17 AM
Oh good one.:rolleyes:

flexible
06-08-2012, 11:44 AM
Wow. I've never seen the swap pages down for maintenance before. I wonder if they're cleaning out the crap files?!?! :D

Are any of you'res missing, jeff?

jeffpn
06-08-2012, 11:58 AM
Everyone's files were inaccessible last time I looked.

flexible
06-08-2012, 12:39 PM
(I wonder if they're cleaning out the crap files), walk this back, if you can jeff, just whose files do you think are "crap files"?

Boof69
06-08-2012, 12:43 PM
I bet he means no one in particular. I assume he means flood fill repaints and tiny physics changes like aileron throw and such.

jeffpn
06-08-2012, 01:05 PM
Right on, Boof. That is what I mean.

Nick
06-11-2012, 01:26 PM
Just dl'd your new ship and really like it!
Very nice and balanced handling!

Nick :)

Boof69
06-11-2012, 02:31 PM
Why thank you sir. :)