G3 users, any initial feedback?

[warlockg]

Is it worth replacing G2? Disregard the Heli wait issue.

First impressions?

[hamflyer]

I just received mine this afternnon and used it for just a little while. Have the 5 addons but not installed them yet. IMO its worth upgrading even if you don't get a rebate :) . I don't have the top of the line video card in it but it seems to work pretty good. Good job RF. Will install the addons tomorrow and try some of the other planes. The video is awesome, a lot better than G2.

[mlm123]

If you have G2....... just wait for the complete G3 with heli.

If you dont have G2... bye G3 :-)

Having some trouble to get planes to stedy hover.

[mlm123]

After flying arond for one hour i must say that grapics is quite nice in G3, BUT the flight realism is of by a mile .....

A plane stalls even with full trothle and if you try to loop, do it very carefull ore you will stall.

It is very diffecult to hover, mutch more difecult than in real world.
I think the plane almost have the same realsim as a real Boing 737 in the real world, and this is totaly wrong for a modelplane.

if you are to quick on the rudder ore elevator stck it will stall, when it SHOULD have gone in to a nice hover ore a loop ......

This is not good !

[Slider]

Raced the Pylon Racing "EVENTS" on multiplayer the other day and it was a BLAST!

When we were racing with the AT-6 Texans, you could make some mighty tight turns around the pylons. :)
But it did "seem" that when using the Simple Flyer that you couldn't make tight turns like you can when flying that plane with RF G2. Maybe thats because thats how they really should fly. I wouldn't know because I haven't flown that particular plane in real life but it does feel correct.

The Pylon Racing "EVENTS" works really good and is a Rush when racing online.
Though I did try to use "one" low wing aircraft, forgot which one, but when I tried to race with that plane in a pylon racing event, the announcer would announce that I was cutting pylons when I actually wasn't.
Otherwise, I had no other problems with the Plyon Racing "EVENT" and it is Fun!
Update: I raced more online yesterday with a few people and the race event didn't work as good as it did with the first online racing that I held. Band aid fix I'm using now>use 9 cuts allowed in a race versus only 3 cuts allowed. Hope they get this fixed one of these days. Even with this, we still did manage to have some GOOD FUN racing online yesterday.:) But if by some chance their not able able to get the racing events ironed out sometime down the line and get it working more correctly. :(

When hosting online the host NOW has the ability to BOOT people if needed!

The down side. :( There does seem to be a bug, that when someone leaves a multiplayer session, that everyone else gets "Auto booted" from the session. And the host gets dissconnected and has to click on "host" to restart the session for anyone to be able to rejoin the server. A "MUST FIX" kink.

UPDATE: December 29, 2004: I only checked this out for a short while because I'm busy as heck here doing this and that.
BUT It does now seem that with the lastest RF G3 update that now the multiplayer connection now works the way it should and also the Race "Event" also works the way it should and other things like jumping planes on the runway and invisible trees have been fixed. :)

Not super realistic but pretty darn realistic flying the Mistral at the Observatory Airport with the clouds wizzing by and the sounds of the wind howling and also the sound the glider makes when making a close pass sounds pretty realistic.
If you already have G3 and if you haven't done this already. At any of the Nevada Airports besides the slope flying Airports. Try turning the wind up until you can hear the wind blowing then take a look at the clouds.

You can also walk in any direction you chose as your flying or with your aircraft on the ground via use of the keyboard keys and its also easy to do.

The Nevada Map is VAST with very nice scenery and it takes pretty LONG to reach the end of the map even if your flying an F-86 with a turbine engine in chase mode.

I "think" that you can't turn off aircraft collision like you can with G2 and I personally think thats a good thing. When aircraft cross paths though no collision is registered and I also think that is a good thing, especially for the pylon racing events. Otherwise it just might be mass carnage for almost every race.

Lots of other features.

To get the "True feeling" of this sim you probably do need to have a pretty fast computer.

System I'm using to run RF G3: Pentium 4 @ 3.0Ghz with Hyper, (800mhz Front Side Buss), cache size 1mb, Nvidia Geforce 6800GT 256mb 8XAGP 3D card, 400 watt power supply, 1500mb's Pc 3200 (400mhz) DDR-SDRAM (DDRRAM), 160 GB 7200 spin HD, Windows XP Home ed., with SP2, Decent 19" inch flat screen monitor.


There are a few "kinks" in the sim that they need to iron out,

I've flown .60 size Biplanes, a heli and a whole bunch of other Real RC Aircraft.
I've also been toying with computer simulators (not just RC sims) since about 1990 and have a "ton" of Computer simulators. Thoughout this time, I can't really think of any of the "Really Good" simulators that I've purchased and use or used, that didn't have to go through a "teething process" "After" they've already been released to the public.

VERY HAPPY with RF G3.

Adlai :)

For pic's below: If your using 800x600 resolution, move your mouse around the lower right bottom area of the picture until a box comes up then click on it to make the picture larger. The planes shown racing are the simple flyer's.

[BigD]

mlm123 you are right on. After all the anticipation and hype it is very dissapointing to get G3 and have the planes fly, or not fly for that matter, the way they do here. It isn't real, and if it were, the hobby would be considerably smaller than it is. I don't know what the guys at Knifeedge are thinking, but they really need to get an update to fix this. My LHS ordered SEVENTY copies of G3 from Great Planes and is sending back all but 5 he is so ticked off at the way it works.

This is supposed to approximate reality, not be some challenging video game that has low, medium and high difficulty ratings. C'mon guys at Knifeedge, please weigh in on this subject.

I happen to own 4 or 5 of the planes modeled in the Sim. The sim doesn't even approximate how they actually fly. G2 was actually better in this regard. What gives?????

:mad:

[Jungle Jet Jim]

Once I read through the boards and fixed the bugs (.329 was the silver bullet), it's been great. One thing I did was turn off the ground always in view, it made the airplanes appear to do funny things.

I have the GP Extra 300s ARF in real reality, and it snaps out just the same as the sim. I have also flown the Super Sportster both ways and it works like it should. Ditto for the GP Learjet. I believe both of those are add-on models, so that might make the difference. Overall, I am impressed with the realism, although my computer can't handle lots of background (as it couldn't in G2). I know that I need to add RAM, I just haven't spent the money to do it!

That said, I am still learning the modification tools. There is just too much that you can monkey with to learn in 20 minutes.

JJJim

[jbourke]

mlm123 you are right on. After all the anticipation and hype it is very dissapointing to get G3 and have the planes fly, or not fly for that matter, the way they do here. It isn't real, and if it were, the hobby would be considerably smaller than it is. I don't know what the guys at Knifeedge are thinking, but they really need to get an update to fix this. My LHS ordered SEVENTY copies of G3 from Great Planes and is sending back all but 5 he is so ticked off at the way it works.


What is the name of the hobby shop?


I happen to own 4 or 5 of the planes modeled in the Sim. The sim doesn't even approximate how they actually fly. G2 was actually better in this regard. What gives?????


Which planes? Can you give me a specific example of how they are flying incorrectly?

Jim

[r1derbike]

Here is my short list of observations after using G3 nearly constantly the last few days.

My interlink controller arrived with the throttle/rudder gimbal skewed, and the external transmitter jack on the back misaligned, so the included plug would not mate. I was ready to pack-it-up and ship it for repair/replacement, but I found-out that another USB interface and transmitter would not work with G3 because of the ridiculous serial numbering/registration issue, that effectively locks-out any other controller besides yours. Frankly, this is not acceptable to me as a customer. Penalizing loyal customers with down-time because their controller dies is a minus in the customer service department. I repaired my own controller as a result of the "locking-out other controllers" issue. The left gimbal saddle was not seated (snapped-in) properly, skewing the stick, causing my throttle trim to operate improperly, and finally dislodging the centering pin because of the misalignment. I also fixed the external transmitter jack problem, which was its circuit board was not snapped into one of the alignment pins molded into the interlink controller housing. These issues weren't shipping damage, they were the result of QC/assembly problems at the plant.

Many planes snap prematurely with "normal" elevator inputs on low rates (mostly the 3D aerobats, some sport planes). Some planes are setup perfectly, others seem to have been setup after a company Christmas party, where spirits were high.

3D is extremely difficult to fly with this sim. Other sims I have used 3D easier, making me wonder aloud whether those sims are just too easy to 3D, or if G3 is just harder to 3D. Obviously, the flight instruction shows what may be done with world-class fliers at the sticks, but mere mortals such as myself will need lots of practice to make-up lost ground with the 3D in G3.

The collision mapping is way off on many objects, causing collisions when objects are given a wide berth, and causing collisions where there are invisible objects. I'm constantly looking for the de-cloaking button when getting destroyed by these invisible objects. I might add that it has nothing to do with overstressing the airframe with high-speed 3D flying, causing airframe failures and disintegration, which is novel in its own right.

Sometimes, taxiing slowly over runway or in grass will cause wild gyrations, rocking, bouncing, nose-overs, or crashing of the aircraft (more invisible trenches, sink-holes, boulders?). These anomalies are so violent at times, that one wonders how the airframe could survive, as the plane becomes a blur until it settles down, long after whatever caused it to go nuts has been passed.

The break-away physics are sometimes comical; parts and the engine/fuse assembly sometimes gyrate, flop, spin and just plain act goofy for long after the plane has disintegrated. The kinetic energy displayed would disprove Newtonian physics. It is amusing to watch a turbine-powered jet fuselage take off like a ballistic missile, or act like an horizontal rocket on the ground. Expected behavior with the jets as there is no prop to destroy to impede its progress when it hits the ground. Highly entertaining to non-flyers.

Here are my personal ratings:

Graphics: 8 out of 10 stars. Breath-taking when used at max. resolution with a fast machine/video card.

Flight Physics (including break-away, collision, taxiing physics): 5 out of 10 stars. These areas need work.

Hardware (interlink controller): 2 out of 10 stars. Mine arrived defective. Other USB interfaces with external transmitters cannot be used because of serial numbering/registration requirements that effectively lock-out any other controllers besides the G3 interlink controllers.

Others are noticing these issues, so I know it's not my system which is:

Athlon 64 3200+ 300 gig hard drive space, 1 gb Crucial RAM, EVGA 6800 GT video card (previous card was an nVidia FX5200, which displayed all the anomalies as well) Windows XP Home Edition.

Finally, the Corsair in add-ons vol. 1 does not show aileron movement while on the ground. I like to "pre-flight" the planes by checking control surface operation, just like at the field. Rudder, elevator, and flaps all move virtually, but the ailerons are out-to-lunch. It flies fine, however. Picky perhaps, but as long as we're talking realism, I thought it fair game...

More later...

Sincerely,

Charles M. Dawson

[Slider]

I'll verify the bouncing aircraft here and there. But since I never crash :rolleyes: barring the occasional "invisible tree" that I might happen upon while flying through the valleys and such. I can't verify that fuselage sometimes flying way.....way....wayyyyy up into the sky thing :rolleyes:

[rewithey]

r1derbike - I have had G3 for over a week now and have experienced EVERY defect in this software you described......hope a bug fix is included with the heli update. I have none of these problems in G2.

I REALLY miss the heli's - I have seen twice where admins in this forum have said heli update in weeks.....not months.......I wonder if weeks is 1-2 weeks or as many as 52 weeks........ :rolleyes:

I also had to open up my G3 transmitter to snap the board in place properly to allow the trainer cord to plug in. :eek:

WinXP Pro SP2
Abit NF7-S nForce2
Athlon XP 2800+ Barton core
ASUS GeForce FX5900 ULTRA 256MB 8xAGP
1GB DDR - dual channel
160GB SATA Seagate Barracuda

Rob

[Egyptian]

Bouncing aircraft are an understatement. Every plane I have tried bounces allover the runway. As for the invisible trees we, in the actual simulator world (where I work), we call them glass walls. It happens when edges of surfaces do not connect in the data base. Wonder if that is what is happening here?

I think they have a lot of builds to go before they can call it stable or final.

Egyptian

[r1derbike]

Slider:

The fuselage rockets don't bother me, I sort of enjoy that aspect of the sim. If one takes-off after a crash, I leave the throttle to-the-wall to enjoy it. With smoke on, it does look impressive as it arcs through the sky. The jet aircraft fuselages are more likely to take-off AND thrash about on the ground, as they have no prop to break, stopping the prop-driven fuselages cold. An added feature!

Charles

[jbourke]

3D is extremely difficult to fly with this sim. Other sims I have used 3D easier, making me wonder aloud whether those sims are just too easy to 3D, or if G3 is just harder to 3D. Obviously, the flight instruction shows what may be done with world-class fliers at the sticks, but mere mortals such as myself will need lots of practice to make-up lost ground with the 3D in G3.


On that matter I can assure you that RealFlight G3 is the most accurate simulator for 3D on the market.

You will need to practice more with G3 but only because of the realism. I've seen some other comments from users about how hard it is to fly 3D on G3 but it really can't be helped because we are striving for accuracy.

Something that will help with the Yak is to increase the size of the vertical stab.

Jim

[mikeyboye]

I just wish I could get it to work and I would post a message.

If not, then I am going to sell it.

OH well :(

[Slider]

Hang in there Mikeyboye! If all else fails! last ditch effort you should call support if you haven't already.

Good luck,

Adlai

[mikeyboye]

Thanks Adlai,

Oh I did a few times. even before I bought the computer.

G3 looks so cool, and I would love to have it working.

We will see how it goes but thanks for your support.

[Slider]

Check out your other post, I see that Ryan is attempting to help you.

And your welcome,

Adlai :)

[r1derbike]

Thanks Jim, I've been doing just that (practicing).

Charles

[Slider]

Charles,

To you reply before the one you just posted.

Yes!! An added Feature! :D

Adlai :)

[hobiewan]

After reading about all of the problems, I'm glad I'm waiting a while to purchase G3.
I don't need anymore aggravations in my life :(
It's too bad that the sim has been released with so many different issues to resolve. It reminds me of M$'s CFS3 that came out a couple of years ago. Never could get it to work entirely right, even with the flight sim community offering all kinds of patches and fixes. It now sits on my shelf, never to be re-installed again. Of course, it didn't cost me $200 either.
My .02 worth.
Hobie

[r1derbike]

I haven't purchased any software (especially new) that didn't have some bugs of some sort. It is a continuous upgrading process. Takes many users wringing it out and lots of feedback to find, and correct the issues.

You throw your software out to the public to use/abuse, dodge the rocks and bricks that are thrown your way, and hopefully some of those rocks and bricks will have notes attached that help to improve the software. It seems KnifeEdge is doing a bang-up job getting issues resolved so far.

Give it time.

Charles

[BigD]

I just want them to make the planes fly correctly! There is absolutely no excuse for them to release G3 and have the planes behave the way they do. Snapping out of routine (non 3D maneuvers) and having elevator issues on low rate maneuvers is really a complete lack of attention....or maybe the testers were stoned when they tested it. Either way, given that this is the 3rd or 4th generation Sim from these folks they certainly know how the planes are supposed to behave. The Yak is almost unflyable and the TF P-51, which is a plane that I have flown a lot in real life behaves terribly unless you go in and start editing the hell out of the parameters. Even then, it acts strangely. Go figure.

They just had to get this out in time for Christmas, then put the fixes in later. Given the posts on this board and on RCU I think they shot themselves in the foot. My LHS sent 65 copies back to GP after using G3 and kept only 5 for the braver users. :mad:

[jbourke]

I just want them to make the planes fly correctly! There is absolutely no excuse for them to release G3 and have the planes behave the way they do. Snapping out of routine (non 3D maneuvers) and having elevator issues on low rate maneuvers is really a complete lack of attention....or maybe the testers were stoned when they tested it. Either way, given that this is the 3rd or 4th generation Sim from these folks they certainly know how the planes are supposed to behave. The Yak is almost unflyable and the TF P-51, which is a plane that I have flown a lot in real life behaves terribly unless you go in and start editing the hell out of the parameters. Even then, it acts strangely. Go figure.


BigD, please PM me with your phone number and I'll personally call you to assist you with the product.

The Yak flies realistically on my machine.


My LHS sent 65 copies back to GP after using G3 and kept only 5 for the braver users. :mad:

What is the name of the hobby store?

Jim

[r1derbike]

After spending many hours flying the Yak, this has to be a favorite plane in G3. It performs near-pattern precision, and has nearly unlimited aerobatic potential. Just wish I had a much better radio than my super-7, to setup advanced aerobatic mixing/controls and toggle on/toggle off functions on switches. Excellent all around plane.

The Edge 540 in add-ons 4 is my favorite 40% plane. Some fine tuning with CG and throws, and it rocks also. It "flies" larger too! Nice feel.

Anybody else have any favorites?

Charles

[mlm123]

The planes flying badly for 3d performance.
And its almost imposible to hover. and its imposible to install addonsplanes as i used to in G2....
And every plane stalls if you give full elevator... and NOT ONE of my real planes does that !!!

Could plese someone support from G3 bugfix this ?

It is not simulating this well IF YOU DONT HAVE A SUPER DUPER COMPUTER ! .

You need a Pentium 4 2Ghz , 256mb videocard( not a cheep one) and minimum 512mb ram ! Any less than that you have to turn of all trees, skyes, detail,shadow and run in 800x600 pix view :-( to get the performance well enough to practice 3d.

I have ordered a new pc now to be able to use G3. My old Pentium 1,2 ghz with 1gb ram and 200gb harddrive and 128mb 9600pro videocard is not good enough to use G3 with the nice flight grapics with skyes wind, trees and details....
Al planes are perforing very badly on a slow computer like this.


Regards Kjetil
Norway.

[theKAT]

After spending many hours flying the Yak, this has to be a favorite plane in G3. It performs near-pattern precision, and has nearly unlimited aerobatic potential. Just wish I had a much better radio than my super-7, to setup advanced aerobatic mixing/controls and toggle on/toggle off functions on switches. Excellent all around plane.

I like the YAK too, but I think I still have a long way to go in getting it to fly the way I want it to. It would be nice if the G3 Swap Page would open up so somebody more capable than I could post their "fixed" models.

Current issues I'm still struggling with:

-Rudder still waaay to sensitive, even with 100% expo

-Apparently torque is over-exaggerated, hard to fly a decent vert upline.

-Unable to control direction of break in stall turns/spins, even with full opp rudder

-Still too snappy/quirky for any "fun" 3D flying

[theKAT]

Kjetil -

I'm getting acceptable performance on my "sub-standard" system. Granted, I have to use simple scenery and turn off a lot of the details.

I'm running a Dell 4100/P3-866
512mb RAM
GeForce FX5200

I get between 27 and 50 fps.

Karl

[r1derbike]

Torque may be played with in the aircraft editor. Rudder may be used to offset torque reaction, to maintain heading.

I'm going to play with weight a bit with the Yak.

So much to play with, and so little time to do so!

Charles

[Mac4TBH]

The slope soaring is great and this is good because that is one of my main reasons for getting G3. The other reason was for the controller and it is also great and my other radio(s) seem to work just fine with it.

BTW I can not find the brakes! Any hints on were to look?

A big plus is that the controller works with these to date:

FS2004
x-Plane
easy fly
FMS
Piccofly
Pre-flight V1.95 but not V2
RCPlane Master
RCsim Sikorsky
RCsimulator
RCCars
Slope Soaring SSS

Others to be tested later.

I have been a tester for Adobe and Populopolis so I do not mind being a first time user of G3 so that I can see it grows into an even greater simulator.

First wish is to fix the jumping on the ground that pops up a lot.
Second with is to let us use other controllers such as joysticks and such like G2 does.

Anyhow I have not found any lakes to fly floatplanes from and I am still looking for the winch to get sailplanes into the air. Also I am having a problem converting some planes from 100% to 250% but then it may be my lack of understanding what is simple to others.

All in all I like the program and will look forward to all the new stuff to come out for it. I just downloaded the wiring for the interface so someone will make a dongle so that we can use other controllers.

Thanks

[Slider]

Mac,

Brakes?

On the Mistral: Throttle stick up to raise spoilers, throttle stick down to lower spoilers.

If thats what your talking about.
Only experience I have with gliders is via G3.

Adlai

[vitek]

BTW I can not find the brakes! Any hints on were to look?
Are you talking about flaps/spoilers or actual wheel brakes? As slider pointed out, the gliders use the throttle stick to control the spoilers. Usually the dial controls the flaps, and if you're talking about brakes on wheels, forward elevator will apply the brakes.

A big plus is that the controller works with these to date...
The G3 Interlink Plus works with all that software? Wow.

Travis

[gflyer]

First impressions:

Needed new video card to run the game (BFG FX5500 128MB AGP)

The slope performance and realism is much better than G2. I have more experience with sail/slope planes, sloping in G3 is lots of fun. :cool:

I have noticed the bouncing/bobbing when taxiing on paved runways also.

I am not an experienced 3D flyer, so I cannot verify what others have said about unrealistic performance. My biggest problem is that you don't have peripheral vision like real life, and the plane gets too far away for me to control when trying to hover, etc.

Overall, G3 looks to be much more powerful than G2, in terms of physics and tweakability. Maybe it just needs some fine tuning. I can't help thinking that some of the planes that people are complaining about are off in terms of CG or some other adjustable feature.

Works fairly well on my system, mostly medium quality settings.

My setup:

System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Processor: AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2100+, MMX, 3DNow, ~1.7GHz
Memory: 512MB RAM
DX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500
MFR: NVIDIA
Version: 6.14.0010.6693 (English)
Date: 10/29/2004 16:50:00, 3736704 bytes
CD-ROM (?:) Memorex DVD+R/RW 2.4x8AA (?)
Free Disk Space (C:): 30984 mb free
Launcher Version: 1.00.108
RealFlight G3: 3.00.329

[Mac4TBH]

Are you talking about flaps/spoilers or actual wheel brakes? As slider pointed out, the gliders use the throttle stick to control the spoilers. Usually the dial controls the flaps, and if you're talking about brakes on wheels, forward elevator will apply the brakes.


The G3 Interlink Plus works with all that software? Wow.

Travis

Thanks it was wheel brakes that I could not get to work till now that i know how. Yes G3 also works on others that I have not listed yet because my wife cleaned up this place and my card with the names has been filed someplace.

I remember REVOLT worked and am still testing Microflight V3 and V4 but I can not yet get the rudder stick and gas to work. The ini file seems to get lost all by itself but I will keep at it because it is fun, Motorboat V1 works but needs something but i do not remember.

Just a note here about the fact that only the basic TX works and not as an interface but I am sure that will be fixed soon.

We moved on the first of the year and I just found out the my JR TX single stick was damaged, the stick was bent just a bit and the knob assembly was broke loose but I fixed it. I think I did but I need to test it more since it seemed to be having a problem... it should work fine with the interface YES? it does not know I use a single stick yes?

OK I better stop so have fun all

Mac

[r1derbike]

Set the airplane physics parameter to highest. That makes 3D flying much easier than medium or lower. Seems to damp control inputs a bit, making controlling the plane much easier.

YMMV

Charles

------------------

"Sometimes, I run out of altitude and airspeed...at the same time!

[BigD]

BigD, please PM me with your phone number and I'll personally call you to assist you with the product.

The Yak flies realistically on my machine.



What is the name of the hobby store?

Jim
Sorry for taking so long to get back to you. The name of the store is Brands Hobbies in N. Providence RI. 401 521 2380....ask for Andy. Store opens at 12:30 pm weekdays....9:30 on Saturday.

The gliders fly great. The P-51 and the Yak are uncontrollable. I've got them both also.

[r1derbike]

The Edge 540 3Ds very nicely. It needs more elevator authority dialed-in though. It is very floaty and easy to control in 3D maneuvers. The Yak is definitely more lively with 3D, but if you can 3D it, the Edge is a piece-of-cake.

High-rates do take a feather touch if used on-the-wing, though. I'm still coming to grips with the snapping problems with many planes.

Charles

[Slider]

Just pulling a hit and run here because I'm still preeeeety busy here doing this and that.
BUT....with the latest RF G3 "version" update.
It does now appear that these things work the way they should... :)Multiplayer connection.
Race Event.
No more invisible trees.
No more jumping aircraft on the runway.

I wasn't able to really check these things that I've mentioned all that well because of lack of time. But they do appear to have been fixed. :p :D
There most probably are other minor things that have been fixed. Just didn't have the time to check it out yet. :)

Couple pic's below from multiplayer on Dec. 29, 2004.
PS: Pic's aren't as clear as when your actually using the sim.

Adlai :p

[Slider]

PS to my last post right above this one, right up there ^. :)

Seems that lots of people have problems with G3 because they come to this disscussion board and seems they don't take the time to read maybe even a "single" other post thats posted on this disscussion board before they decide to blow off some steam and post their frustrations here. Seems they also don't bother to check out the other information that KE has provided within their KE "Welcome Page".
OR seems that when they do get their sims going, they don't bother to get to know the sim first before blowing off steam in here. The planes don't work right.
Then maybe try experimenting with turning down your resolution, or maybe nix the clouds etc., etc., etc. etc. or the planes setting itself etc.
Man, like a bunch of spoiled 3 year olds!

If you buy "ANY" sim, don't be expecting miracles if your computer isn't towards the higher end of the systems requirements.

I'm thinking, maybe KE should have sold G3 for $ 500.oo instead of $ 200.oo because the way lots of people seem to be reacting. Itslike they want $ 500.oo worth out of a sim that they paid $ 200 for.

Like a bunch of "SPOILED 3 year olds".

PS: Happy New Year~ :p

Adlai :)

[nicknick]

celebrating new year early adlai, you have been drinking right.

PS to my last post right above this one, right up there ^. :)

Seems that lots of people have problems with G3 because they come to this disscussion board and seems they don't take the time to read maybe even a "single" other post thats posted on this disscussion board before they decide to blow off some steam and post their frustrations here. Seems they also don't bother to check out the other information that KE has provided within their KE "Welcome Page".
OR seems that when they do get their sims going, they don't bother to get to know the sim first before blowing off steam in here. The planes don't work right.
Then maybe try experimenting with turning down your resolution, or maybe nix the clouds etc., etc., etc. etc. or the planes setting itself etc.
Man, like a bunch of spoiled 3 year olds!

If you buy "ANY" sim, don't be expecting miracles if your computer isn't towards the higher end of the systems requirements.

I'm thinking, maybe KE should have sold G3 for $ 500.oo instead of $ 200.oo because the way lots of people seem to be reacting. Itslike they want $ 500.oo worth out of a sim that they paid $ 200 for.

Like a bunch of "SPOILED 3 year olds".

PS: Happy New Year~ :p

Adlai :)

[Slider]

Nope, I meant what I said and I'm totally strait.

Adlai :)

[Slider]

Ah shoot......

I just tried to host again.

When I use my second copy of RF G3 to join my own server there is no problem even if I attempt to rejoin my Multiplayer server many times.

BUT...unfortunately. It does seem that when someone else joins then exits the session.
That again, the host gets dissconnected and anyone else that is in the session also gets dissconnected. Brrb...:(

Also: Even after I shut down G3 after getting auto dissconnected from my own server which I started with my first copy of G3. When I searched for servers with my second copy of G3 (not the copy I used to start a server), My server which I started with my first copy of G3 is still shown on the list of server's even though its not really up.
And I receive this message when attempting to join that "non-existing" server thats still showing...lol :)
I receive this message: Failed to Receive Information Packet.
But again, the server finally does "NOT SHOW" after about 10 minutes or so.
Note: When I did host I did have my firewall ON but I do have RF G3 set as an exception to programs that my firewall blocks.

I personnaly can live with this problem because I guess I have lots of patience.
It most probably would be a whole lot better if KE can get this fixed one of these days. But even if by some chance KE somehow doesn't manage to get this problem fixed one of these days. Better then "NO" multiplayer capability period!:)

Thx,

Adlai :)

[Progneto]

After a 20 year absence from the hobby, I found a Bridi Super Kaos kit on Ebay. I flew this plane years ago and loved it so I bought the kit and built it. When I was just about finished building the plane a friend of mine told me I should really get some simulator time since I hadn't flown in so long. I didn't think the sim would amount to much but I couldn't believe how incredible G2 was!!! As a matter of fact, I learned to fly helicopters in about two weeks and actually bought a real one and have 8 flights on it with absolutely no personal instruction, just G2.

Well, last night I bought G3. I have to say that I am not that impressed. In fact, I would rather have G2. I have a fast laptop that G2 worked great on and G3 does okay on the laptop but the helicopters are MUCH harder to fly because the reaction time is slower than on G2. Maybe after I get everything set up it will be better. Some problems I have noticed:

1. I like to zoom in on the model. With G2, the zoom setting would stay the same when I changed aircraft. It does not with G3, I have continually change the zoom level if I change anything.

2. I don't like the view setting that keeps the ground visible, the airplane gets way too small, way too fast. I always have to change that setting to manual everytime I change the airplane.

3. I was hoping the graphics would be somewhat close to Aerofly Pro. I especially like the graphics on MRC's Reflex XTR. If a local hobby shop would have stocked it, I would have purchased it instead of G3.

I hope that Knife Edge will give us some upgrades soon to smooth out some of these problems.

What problems have you noticed that could be fixed in an upgrade????


Progneto

[yak 1947]

Have the G3 running on a 100" screen and works really well

Computer is P4 3g 800 fsb with 1 g ram
good 3d video card 256k mem
80 G Hi speed hard drive.with 8 G cache

run it through panasonicprojector onto screen.
with it set on "keep ground in veiw it is just like flying at the field.
No trouble to get landing approch right as you can see great.