G3 is a joke of a sim and I own the thing!!

[MMike]

Well hate to be negative but once again I have wasted my hard earned money on an overhyped product! My sim arrived this week and all I can say is I am gutted at the poor physics and bugs in this simulator. I have been flying at international level for the past two years at f3a and imac, can torqueroll to the ground, do all 3d I would say well but in this sim its like the planes dont want to fly as the should, like they are overweight, wrong airfoils and really just pigs to fly. I have an composite arf yak and a ef yak and not one of them flys anything like the one on the sim, Ive heard Jim trying his hardest to say this product is more realistic than the other sims as its more liflike!! wake up its worse than lifelike, if my planes flew like they did on realflight g3 then I would quit the hobby. other problems that I have noticed are surfices that are too rough, invisible barriers that my plane blows up when flying and just un incredibly unrealistic 3d physics system, I am dissapointed and will go and order aerofly deluxe tomorrow. Sorry to be so negative but this sim looks good but I am interested in the simulation and it is far below par.

[W99dey]

Just a note, I though the same, if you look in settings the default is medium setting realism, set it to highest and you might be surprised with the difference?!?

[MMike]

Thanks for the help, I had that set as described on my first runs, still find it damn hard to 3d. Oh well might go and 3d my shocky outside.

[RC 4 Fun]

Are you running Gee3 in full screen mode or in window mode? If you run it in full screen mode it really cleans up.

[Joe Teibel]

Not sure if you've tried these but a lot of people are finding that it helps A LOT: 1) In the Simulation > Settings dialog set the Physics to Highest 2) Calibrate your controller through the controller menu. These two issues have turned out to be a much larger problem than we had anticipated and we have taken steps to remedy the problem in upcoming updates by setting physics to highest by default and posting a message informing users that they have not yet calibrated their controller.

If you have already tried both of these things, the only thing I can recommend is that you tweak the aircraft settings using the aircraft editor.

[BigD]

Not sure if you've tried these but a lot of people are finding that it helps A LOT: 1) In the Simulation > Settings dialog set the Physics to Highest 2) Calibrate your controller through the controller menu. These two issues have turned out to be a much larger problem than we had anticipated and we have taken steps to remedy the problem in upcoming updates by setting physics to highest by default and posting a message informing users that they have not yet calibrated their controller.

If you have already tried both of these things, the only thing I can recommend is that you tweak the aircraft settings using the aircraft editor.

With all due respect, we should NOT have to fool with the settings and "tweak" the plane to get it to fly properly. Tweaks should be for special conditions and behaviors, not a well set up plane. It would be very helpful if the next release fixed this problem since it is very disconcerting. I also have several of the planes that are in the simulator and I can honestly say that the simulator does not even begin to approximate the behavior of the real aircraft when set up according to manufacturer's specs. The Yak is almost unflyable and almost all of the planes exhibit very poor elevator and snap tendencies.

[Highflyer]

Planes will fly slightly differently on different computers. All of the simulators are that way.

[Joe Teibel]

With all due respect, we should NOT have to fool with the settings and "tweak" the plane to get it to fly properly. Tweaks should be for special conditions and behaviors, not a well set up plane. It would be very helpful if the next release fixed this problem since it is very disconcerting.

We, along with many other users, think that the planes are well set up. If you don't, you might have to tweak the settings to get the behavior that you expect.

The Yak is almost unflyable and almost all of the planes exhibit very poor elevator and snap tendencies.

Did you try the physics settings I suggested?

[Rod Harmer]

I have had the Sim for a week now and I do not find any problem whatever in flying the Yak . If you use large inputs from your controller you may experience some unusual behaviour but if you use small and smooth movments as you do with a heli you will (should ) not have any trouble flying it . As for the tweaking , isn't that what the editor is all about ? You use it to set up aircraft for your own preferance . I use it to get stock aircraft to fly the same as my real ones that are not in the aircraft menu . They may not look exactly the same but they do fly the same . There are a few small bugs in the Sim that I am sure will be ironed out as was done for G2 over time . I would like to see more options in the Nav guides , and maybe that will happen in time . Seeing as this sim is an advanced type it follows that you will need a very fast Comp. and high speed video card to get the optimum out if it . If you dont have that then deleting a few scenes seems to help . My comp has P4 2.4 Processor , 768 mb of RAM and a 128 mb video card and works perfectly . With all of the scenery selected I get 35-45 frames/ sec but if I delete some scenery and clouds (like a fine day is ) then I get 200-240 frames/sec and it is very smooth indeed. I love it and the deeper I get into it the more I am amazed at just how much is there to use . I use my JR PCM 9X through the interlink and its just fine . You do have to spend time in setting all of it up properly but that happened with G2 as well .
It was well worth the wait and extra dollars spent on my comp to get such a great Sim. The Domino 90 3D flies very much like my X-spec so I am pleased to have at last a heli to practice with .
You guys at Knife Edge can be proud of what you have produced .
Well done
Rod H

[RC 4 Fun]

Rod....I have to agree with you. :)


If there is one thing I have learned about using programs on computers....there actually is no "one size fit's all"....so to speak. That is why upgrades will need to be made from time to time to accomodate the new programs coming out.....Gee3 included. While at first....I felt a little put out about needing to run out and upgrade my video card so I could run Gee3....I thought to myself.....isn't owning and using computers and computer software always about upgrades anyway?

Yes...I know some cannot afford to just run out a drop more $$$ because their system won't support the software. But then....it's about counting the cost with everything we do in life....and frankly....buying and using Gee3 is one of those times when it's important to count the cost before you dive in....if $$$ is an issue for you. If you own an earlier version of Realflight and are happy with it....then stick with it until you can afford to buy Gee3....if that is what you want to do. Just remember...no matter what hobby you involve your $$$ in...there is always going to be the cost factor involved. Just something to consider before you make the plunge.

[Jim L]

well i might be a little new to the FlightSim's for R/C
but i got over 30 years in real life R/C
and i get a kick out of the planes and how weird the fly
not much differant than a new guy bringing out one for you to TEST FLY.
they are kind of buggy too. LOL
i just hate these tiny @SS LITTLE Planes in the SIM's

they are even tiny before you take it off
then all yo see is an even tinyer, black silhouette flipping around in the sky.
they go too small, way too fast.
and same plane on one fields flys, ok to good,, go to another field and it will fly like a brick..
but again,, new guy comes in whith a plane should wiegh 6 or 7 lbs
and it wieghs over 10 or 12 lbs LoL
all in the game LoL

JUST DON'T LIKE ALL THEM TINY @SS LITTLE PLANES,, EVEN THE BIG ONES IN THE SIM GET TOO SMALL TOO FAST.. Jim

[Jim L]

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i don't want to say the guy is whining about the G3, but he did speak a little bit too fast, and i do think he didn't read anything about it.
heck, i did not read anything either.
but i did find out all that stuff, you Can't see, that you craash into, you can edit out of the field.
SO, what is he whining about? ? ?
tree in the way,,,, CUT IT DOWN,, ( that means EDIT IT OUT )
but coming in here, whinine about something you have full control over is a bit childish..
And as for how the planes fly. i have flown every one of them.
and i see the way they fly, and respond to flight, it seems to be the problem of the way people fly today at the fields.
too small of a prop, with too much pitch...
it is like flying all the planes with a ducted fan.
only fly at the top 1/4 of the throttle.
anything lower it will not fly
Wide open or nothing.
NOW,, i would like to see an addon, where you can change the prop size & pitch..
that is an old-timers way, to getting these planes to fly right. and good too
i believe in low-in throttle controle.. not high-end throttle..
it is in the landing, that puts most planes in the grown,, not the flying around the sky. it is close to the ground, you need good throttle controle..
so quit WHINING and learn the PROGRAM.....

[Rick Delten]

No offense -but were you drunk when you wrote this?
I cant make sense of it -even after you edited it :confused:


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i don't want to say the guy is whining about the G3, but he did speak a little bit too fast, and i do think he didn't read anything about it.
heck, i did not read anything either.
but i did find out all that stuff, you Can't see, that you craash into, you can edit out of the field.
SO, what is he whining about? ? ?
tree in the way,,,, CUT IT DOWN,, ( that means EDIT IT OUT )
but coming in here, whinine about something you have full control over is a bit childish..
And as for how the planes fly. i have flown every one of them.
and i see the way they fly, and respond to flight, it seems to be the problem of the way people fly today at the fields.
too small of a prop, with too much pitch...
it is like flying all the planes with a ducted fan.
only fly at the top 1/4 of the throttle.
anything lower it will not fly
Wide open or nothing.
NOW,, i would like to see an addon, where you can change the prop size & pitch..
that is an old-timers way, to getting these planes to fly right. and good too
i believe in low-in throttle controle.. not high-end throttle..
it is in the landing, that puts most planes in the grown,, not the flying around the sky. it is close to the ground, you need good throttle controle..
so quit WHINING and learn the PROGRAM.....

[hamflyer]

You can change the prop size and pitch in G3. At least I did it on the nexstar. I even changed the engine to an os 52 4 stroke and made it a 3 bladed prop. Really gave the plane a lot of power :eek:

hamflyer :cool:

[gflyer]

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NOW,, i would like to see an addon, where you can change the prop size & pitch..
so quit WHINING and learn the PROGRAM.....

Just as you can edit trees out, you can edit a lot of airplane parameters, including prop type, size, and pitch.

Have fun. :cool:

[Jim L]

Just as you can edit trees out, you can edit a lot of airplane parameters, including prop type, size, and pitch.

Have fun. :cool:

QUOTE=gflyer]Just as you can edit trees out, you can edit a lot of airplane parameters, including prop type, size, and pitch.

Have fun. :cool:[/QUOTE]

as i said earlyer LoL i didn't read it either..

i am having fun playing with all the buttons & Whistle's LOL
but i am not griping about it

i am having fun chopping down all them invisible trees.
but i am glad the Props and Pitch can be changed

i am having a ball with all if it
and the learning curve with all the stuff you can do inside the program is fun too
that is why i did read it. i knew it had a lot to offer, that is why i got it
one thig i haven't found. might not be on the plane i am trying to do it to, you can't change, don't know yet. taking off the Nose-wheel and moving up the Main.

i like tail-draggers
i took the Big-Stick 60, and made it a tail-dragger, and LOL made a swamp buggy out of it
i have 5 1/2 inch wheels on it, land anywhere LoL almost on water..
i have been flying that plane for over 15 years
gone through 6 motors, and now on # 7.
i even made the ailerons 30% bigger, and made them Flaperons.
the planes will land like a helicopter, with about a 4 mph Breeze.
i can drop the Flaps and fly almost SLOWER that a Elect. Park-Flyer. and the Plane weighs over 10 lbs with all the alterations i made to it
the new ARF's are at most if you do them right 7 1/2 lbs. with the 5 1/2 wheels.

oh the 7th motor is a OS 91 now
broke away from the 61's i put a HIMI on it LoL
but back to the prop thing

i had the 61's pulling a 14/4 Zinger prop
and man low end power out the but. sense the plane was not made for speed, i gave it Low-end power to burn. takes off in 2 feet, and goes straight UP,, with a 61..
i am trying to do the same with the Big-Stick 60 in the sim

[Jim L]

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invisible barriers that my plane blows up when flying and just un incredibly unrealistic 3d physics system, I am dissapointed
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i did something, and got very good out come for it..
i took the BIG-STICK 60 in the sim. and went into the EDIT mode
and found out it was coppied after the 40, not the 60.
and i changed the 40 to a 60,, the prop to a 14/4. and this is where it got good.. cause it did not fly much better.. i think because it was coppied after the 40. i never did like the way it would FLY. like a pig it did.
in the SIM. i changed the PHYSICS DIMENSION (%) FROM 100 TO 200
AND IT NOW FLYS LIKE MY REAL ONE.. short the FLAPS
what you see in the Sim is still the same size plane, it just now flys 200% better
throttle even now works like the real ones do. control from low to high, and now flys at 1/4 throttle. real slow and not falling out of the sky like it did before the change.

i might have found your magic number to make your 3D flying work