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Old 12-16-2011, 11:20 PM
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Aeriane Swift Lite

Pretty interesting craft:

Looks to be powered and un-powered versions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6XWaSeQV2NA#!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-1uT...eature=related

http://www.flymanilla.com/Equipment/...4/Default.aspx

http://aero.stanford.edu/reports/swiftarticle1991.html

Being a part time paraglider this one always looked interesting Just throwing it out there.

The prototypes were R/C also.
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Old 12-17-2011, 06:43 PM
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Weird, simple query search turned up this little gem.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=446637

...and this youtoob vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i98PYOrJ2hg


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Old 12-17-2011, 07:06 PM
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Old 12-24-2011, 06:33 PM
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Would like to see a Hobbico Hobbistar 60 MkIII w/ OS .55 AX engine for RF6

Hi! I'm just starting out RC flight training and am getting instruction from an AMA certified instructor at the local club. I grew up in the '70s around control line and free flight models, but have only recently responded to the call of RC aircraft.

I've had several lessons using the instructor's Sig Senior trainer and have purchased a Hobbico Hobbistar 60 MkIII ARF and will be using an OS .55 AX engine in it for my own (plane and engine will arrive next week). After watching me flying the Sig Senior my instructor felt that the Hobbistar might be a good fit for me due to some of the differences from a trainer like a Senior (still a large airframe but is a little faster and more maneuverable due to the semi-symmetrical wing, but can be dialed back to give a good training experience).

My instructor also insisted that I spend lots of time on a RC simulator, so I chose RealFlight 6 after looking over competing products like Phoenix and Clearview. I made the choice on RF6 before settling on a trainer airplane and now need a Hobbistar model to practice with.

I would like to see the Hobbistar get built for RF6, or at the very least some information on how to modify one of the existing aircraft (like maybe the NexSTAR) to mimic a Hobbistar using the aircraft editor in RF6 (or maybe both a model and mod instructions till the model is ready, if possible). I just don't have the skill level to do this myself!

Here are it's specs (from the Tower Hobbies website):
Wingspan: 71" (1805mm)
Wing Area: 888" (57 dm2)
Wing Chord: 12.5"
Weight: 7-8lb (3175-3629g)
Wing Loading: 18-21 oz/sq ft (55-64 g/dm2)
Length: 55" (1400mm)
Width- 3 3/8"
Airfoil: Semi-Symmetrical, High-Wing
Center of Gravity: 3" Back from the wing's leading edge at the fuselage sides.

Control Throws-
Ailerons: Up & Down 3/8" (11mm)
Elevator: Up & Down 1/2" (13mm)
Rudder: Right & Left 1" (26mm)
There is a ton of information available on the Hobbistar including an article on how to assemble it, nifty modifications to make and at least one flight test (all with pictures). Here are the links for that:

Hobbistar 60 MKIII ARF
The End of the Beginning
Not Your Stock Hobbistar Part One
Not Your Stock Hobbistar Part Two
Hobbico HobbiStar 60Mk III

And here are some pictures:


ARF parts


Hobbistar Airfoil (the Hobbistar Select is the RTF version of this ARF)


The Hobbico Hobbistar 60 MkIII ARF


Another angle (note mods to aileron servos and wing attachment)


And another angle


And yet another angle (note mods to aileron servos and wing attachment)


And a tail end view


Hobbistar in flight

Thanks,

James

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Old 12-24-2011, 08:11 PM
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RF has a stock Nexstar that will do. I also recently built a Carl Goldberg Eagle 2 available here. http://www.knifeedge.com/forums/down...=file&id=15849
There's also a nitro variant for it. The link is found on the main page for the Eagle. Click the yellow question mark for help on importing.
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Old 12-24-2011, 09:17 PM
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Are you sure the NexSTAR would do?

It has a flat bottom wing with "SpinControl™ Airfoil Extensions" (nubs on the front of the wings), is much smaller (46) and has an air-brake built in to the trailing edge of the wings near the fuselage on each side.

The Hobbistar is much larger (60) and has a semi-symmetrical wing with a wider chord than you would normally see and some dihedral. There are no nubs and no air-brakes on it as there are in the NexSTAR.

I haven't flown either yet personally, but have been told by guys in the local club that they do fly noticeably different from each other and recommended against the NexSTAR if I had the choice (which I did).

I did download the Goldberg Eagle 2 and tried it out. I sincerely hope the Hobbistar doesn't fly like that while I'm training on it! It's for a more advanced student pilot than I am.

One of the first things I had to learn while looking to see what trainer I would get for myself was that the term 'trainer' needs to be qualified with WHAT it's supposed to train you on! I needed a plane that was good for basic training and found most of the 'trainers' were for aerobatics or 3D flight.

Were I to describe my understanding of the Hobbistar in a single phrase, I would call the it a "semi-aerobatic basic trainer". Neither the NexSTAR nor the Goldberg Eagle 2 could be described in that way based on the 2nd hand information I have. The Eagle 2 and NexSTAR do fly QUITE a bit different from each other in RF6 though, which I know from first hand experience!!

RF6 has very few basic trainers. The Hobbistar would be a good one to add to that roster. I'm just not at the level to do it myself...

James

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Old 12-24-2011, 09:59 PM
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The two aircraft that I mentioned have long been regarded as good trainers. The truth is, anything you fly in RF will help teach basic skills like orientation. As far as a lack of trainers in RF, you have a point. I agree with you. That said, the request for trainers peaks at Christmastime. There's not much call for trainers the rest of the year, but sometimes people ask for them. Modelers have never seemed very interested in making trainers. Generally by the time people learn to model, they are beyond trainers. Perhaps they/we see that as a step backward.
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You provide three views and specks, and I will make it tomorrow. I love trainers. They don't need a lot of prop wash, hehe.
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Old 12-25-2011, 12:01 AM
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Are you sure the NexSTAR would do?

It has a flat bottom wing with "SpinControl™ Airfoil Extensions" (nubs on the front of the wings), is much smaller (46) and has an air-brake built in to the trailing edge of the wings near the fuselage on each side.

The Hobbistar is much larger (60) and has a semi-symmetrical wing with a wider chord than you would normally see and some dihedral. There are no nubs and no air-brakes on it as there are in the NexSTAR.

I haven't flown either yet personally, but have been told by guys in the local club that they do fly noticeably different from each other and recommended against the NexSTAR if I had the choice (which I did).

I did download the Goldberg Eagle 2 and tried it out. I sincerely hope the Hobbistar doesn't fly like that while I'm training on it! It's for a more advanced student pilot than I am.

One of the first things I had to learn while looking to see what trainer I would get for myself was that the term 'trainer' needs to be qualified with WHAT it's supposed to train you on! I needed a plane that was good for basic training and found most of the 'trainers' were for aerobatics or 3D flight.

Were I to describe my understanding of the Hobbistar in a single phrase, I would call the it a "semi-aerobatic basic trainer". Neither the NexSTAR nor the Goldberg Eagle 2 could be described in that way based on the 2nd hand information I have. The Eagle 2 and NexSTAR do fly QUITE a bit different from each other in RF6 though, which I know from first hand experience!!

RF6 has very few basic trainers. The Hobbistar would be a good one to add to that roster. I'm just not at the level to do it myself...

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You can always try the Hobico Upstar.
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Old 12-25-2011, 02:18 AM
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You can always try the HOBBICO Upstar.
And where would that be? Swaps, Add-On's, Exp Packs or the hobby shop?

Provide some more info.................
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E-Flite Blade SR

I would love to have a Blade SR as i just purchased one! I would be forever Grateful.

Length. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 19.10 in (485mm)
Height . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6.90 in (176mm)
Main Rotor Diameter. . . . . . . . . . . . 21.80 in (552mm)
Tail Rotor Diameter. . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.20 in (82mm)
Weight with Battery. . . . . . . . . . . . . 120 oz (340 g)
Main Motor. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Brushless 3900Kv (installed)
Tail Motor. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Direct-Drive N60 (installed)
Battery. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3S 11.1V 1000mAh Li-Po (included)
Charger . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3-Cell 11.1V Li-Po
Power Supply. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . AC to 12V DC, 1.5A (included)
Transmitter. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . HP6DSM 2.4GHz DSM 6-channel (included)*
Receiver. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Spektrum AR6110e 2.4GHz DSM Microlite (installed)
On-Board Electronics. . . . . . . . . . . . 2-in-1 Mixer/ESCs (installed)
Servos. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . DS75 Digital Sub-Micro (3 installed)
Gyro. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . G110 Micro Heading Lock (installed)
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Lol i didnt even notice! We need this model for RF6
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Question Ornithopter/ornicopter

I'm not sure if it is physically possible, but I believe an ornithopter (basically a plane that flaps its wings and flies like a bird) could be good for something totally different and definitely a challenge for someone who is willing!
Apparently they are very efficient.

(An ornicopter is basically a helicopter with no tail that "flaps" its rotors as they rotate.)

I have been scouring the net for 3-view plans but couldn't find anything useful.

Attached are some pics from www.flappingflight.com
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:07 PM
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There is one on the swaps: http://www.knifeedge.com/forums/down...o=file&id=1263
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