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Old 08-02-2014, 06:23 AM
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super scorpion

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i was trying to make the super scorpion jet by ad jets to realflight and im allways stuck on all kinds of problems , i would love to get help from one of you guys that know how to create a new model forrealflight to make the super scorpion nad help me all pic and stuff that u need just ask for and ill send to you
thanks for you all helpers
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Old 08-02-2014, 06:24 AM
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Old 08-02-2014, 11:50 AM
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So is this a request for help in learning to build RF models
or do you want someone else to do all the work for you ?

The way you've worded this post it could go either way

this is only your second post and not one word of it for help specifically related to modeling

usually someone with a genuine desire to learn how to model would have posted several by now asking about the 3dmodeling process instead of
"Hi everyone ...I give up"

explaining how far they have gotten ..and specifically about their point they got stuck
the people that are willing to help you need to see screenshots and descriptions about the specific "problems" you are encountering

they would much rather spend an hour or 2 over the course of the next or couple of days helping you with your "problems"
than devote 50-100 hours or more of their free time making it for you

So what program were you using ?
where did you get stuck and why not ask for help instead of just giving up before even getting started?

And since you already have the 3-views you need to post those here AT THE VERY LEAST

Anyone that's willing to take over the modeling for you will need them as they wont want to go searching for them if you already have them
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Old 08-02-2014, 01:09 PM
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Are there 3 views available?
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Old 08-02-2014, 04:37 PM
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hello ,
well sice im a jet pilot and i have to practice till jet power 14 im asking for someone to build this model for me , before i send this post to you guys i asked from my uncle who know about 3d progrems and he couldnt help me so thats why im asking help from you guys .
boof69 if u need any other pics to get this jet fly at realflight u can send me what pics u need and ill send them to you.
thanks for your helps guys .
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Old 08-02-2014, 10:42 PM
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What I really need is accurate drawings of the model from 3 points of view. Photographs will always have perspective that could throw things off. If photos are all you can do you need to get very far away yet zoom way in. This will limit the perspective issue. Optical zoom only digital zoom is terrible and useless. Im not seeing any usable 3 views online. You can simply post them here.
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Old 08-03-2014, 04:38 AM
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well boof69 i will try to get you a drawing of the model from the company (ad jets).
for now at the site of ad jets there is a draw of the super scorpion but in low quality .
i sent you the draw i have found for now and i will email to ad jets if i can get the draw in a better quality .
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Old 08-03-2014, 05:50 AM
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well boof I spoke with the factory and they said they will email me the drawing tomorrow from the factory email so i will send it to here tomorrow but they have one Condition they said that the plane should be with Their name so if you will do a scheme too i will love that you will put the AD JETS on it .
thanks for now barak
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Old 08-03-2014, 07:31 AM
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Well frankly I don't care about their name being on it. They should be happy someone is putting it in the sim. Another color sceme will undoubtably be made without their name. The 3 views you posted already are too tiny.
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Old 08-03-2014, 10:31 AM
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well i dont think they will really goona check if their name is on it so you can do it without their name too.
i will send here tomorrow the better pics after they will send me them and then we can start .
thanks for now barak
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Old 08-04-2014, 11:37 AM
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Are there 3 views available?
He said he was building it and ran in to "problems"
if he was "building it"
I assumed he had 3-views

My post was worded carefully to extract exactly the type of information it yielded ...........jmo...if the production version that's made for retail has AD-Jets on it... so should the models default CS
not to bend to their non-enforceable promotion demand ...but for the accuracy I think we all should strive for

congratulations barakyls
you've interested one of the most talented model makers here
To see this come to fruition check in daily and give him what he needs,,,, there is nothing more frustrating than to get half way through a build and have the requester go AWOL for weeks or even days at a time
at the same time be patient he's doing this when he could be doing other things it may take a couple of weeks or months ..(weeks is probably more accurate)
but boof is just like anyone else who lives on air and likes a steak once in a while
sometimes that pesky real world out there can lay waste to even the most carefully laid out RF time table an hour from now
also keep in mind #1 rule in making RF content that all of us follow here
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS DEADLINE FOR COMPLETION
also
just because it look JUST like it does,ntll ot mean diddly when it comes to the accuracy of the physics model
which leads me to more 2 questions ..
when is "Jet Power 14" ?
you said you need this model for practice that fact brings in a major concern and leads me to this

WHO is going to make a physics model that is accurate enough to get any benefit from practicing in RF

This person needs to be familiar with the
R W physics idiosyncrasies of an Ad Jet Jet
AND knows how to translate that info into RF in the editor when creating the physics (few do) if both requirements are not met
your chance of getting something really beneficial from practicing are slim to none or worse
...maybe even disastrous

Got enogh time?...flying season is short ..
and its August so jet power 14 cant be that far away ..waiting for the model ,the CS ,and the physics may mean power jets 14 may have come and gone before it all done
or at best leave you no practice time
SO ....food for thought...
I'm assuming you own and have flown the real thing
if so how many times ?
do you think you are familiar with the way it flies to the point you would be able to tell if there is ALREADY a jet in the RF livery that flys like the ad jet?

it is possible that there is and you have overlooked it based on appearance alone ..that may be a mistake
remember it could look like a "hello kitty" with rainbow wings and lasers on top of its head and flames coming out its butt ,the only thing that matters is if it flies like a ad jet maybe you should start test flying some to see if it has the same thrust /weight ratio ,simular weights , stall speed etc etc or you may get 0 practice in

At any rate I wish you success I just wanted you to think of these things and mentioned them in case you didn't
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Old 08-04-2014, 01:49 PM
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Hey Maj. Numbskully I appreciate your response very much and here are some answers to your questions.
First I have super scorpion of aviation design and that's why I really want one to reallfight.
I know what features it should have and does have a plane In my mind I expect from the super scorpion fly like him .
i do have the 3 points of view but in low graphic and thats why ive asked the company to send me a better drawing of the plane.
the jet power 14 will be at 21. September 2014 and i really hope the plane will be ready untill then and if not its ok i will practice on the planes i have With similar features and Yet wait impatiently to the super scorpion.
about the logo of ad jets , i talked to them about that and they said that the plane can be without the logo but that their name shhould be on the EA plane that the main plane will be name :AD JETS super scorpion . and i dont think that will be a problem to boof.
i do know that job like this may take very long time and very hard job and im really Grateful about boof offer to help me with this plane building .
thanks for your post again barak.
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Old 08-04-2014, 01:50 PM
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boof69 : i got the drawing and this is it . i love you will be in touched with me with the building process
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Old 08-04-2014, 03:17 PM
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barakyls,
This 3 view is satisfactory. Please remember that the finished model will only be as good as my reference material. If you could spend time gathering or taking as many quality external and internal pictures as possibly it would go a long way to making a better finished product. Also If you could give me information on the engine used and all electronics components you are using it would be a big help. Try to be like an old member here by the name of Norton. He always went the extra mile doing research and supplying it to the modeler. In doing so he was by far the most excepted requester ever. Post everything in this thread for now, but look for a new thread once I've gotten some work done worthy of posting.
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Old 08-04-2014, 04:54 PM
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hi boof im really glad the 3 views are stisfactory .
my engine on the plane is behotec 220 (22kg) and all servos are savox (24 kg ) .
im using a life batteries and all the other systems like air break and folding wheels working by air Pressure , if you will need any other information about the gear just ask and ill write it down
i dont have any pic of the inside of the plane at the moment on my computer but i would take it for you as soon as i can .
i will attach the pics i got now of the plane and will take more as soon as i can hope that the pics i send now will help you start the plane
cheers barak .

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